On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 11:11 AM, Tom Gundersen <teg@xxxxxxx> wrote: > On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 10:20 AM, Maarten Lankhorst > <m.b.lankhorst@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> Op 05-08-13 18:29, Andy Lutomirski schreef: >>> The systemd commit below can delay firmware loading by multiple >>> minutes if CONFIG_FW_LOADER_USER_HELPER=y. Unfortunately no one >>> noticed that the systemd-udev change would break new kernels as well >>> as old kernels. >>> >>> Since the kernel apparently can't count on reasonable userspace >>> support, turn this thing off by default. >>> >>> commit a3bd8447be4ea2ce230eb8ae0e815c04d85fa15a >>> Author: Tom Gundersen <teg@xxxxxxx> >>> Date: Mon Mar 18 15:12:18 2013 +0100 >>> >>> udev: make firmware loading optional and disable by default >>> >>> Distros that whish to support old kernels should set >>> --with-firmware-dirs="/usr/lib/firmware/updates:/usr/lib/firmware" >>> to retain the old behaviour. >>> >> methinks this patch should be reverted then, > > Well, all the code is still there, so it can be enabled if anyone wants it. > >> or a stub should be added to udev to always fail firmware loading so timeouts don't occur. > > I think the only use (if any) of a userspace firmware loader would be > for anyone who wants a custom one (i.e., not udev), so we shouldn't > just fail the loading from udev unconditionally. > > How about we just improve the udev documentation a bit, similar to > Andy's kernel patch? Sorry, I should first have checked. We already document this in the README: > Userspace firmware loading is deprecated, will go away, and > sometimes causes problems: > CONFIG_FW_LOADER_USER_HELPER=n -t -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-hotplug" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html