(cc'd Eric and Milan because 5f71a296 and ebf4127c might be related) I'm trying to track down a problem that started with virt-manager not being able to connect to libvirtd. Long story short, the problem is that "udevadm settle" is timing out, with no events in the udev queue. (I know it's bad for libvirt to rely on "udevadm settle", but it seems that this is exposing some other problem). This is with 3.2.14 from Debian. I can trigger the problem easily by just starting libvirtd and killing it. Then, the counters are stuck here: # cat /sys/kernel/uevent_seqnum 13593 # od -t d2 /dev/.udev/queue.bin | head -1 0000000 13592 During the libvirtd startup, I ran "udevadm monitor", which seems to indicate that 13593 never made it to udev: # udevadm monitor --kernel --property monitor will print the received events for: KERNEL - the kernel uevent KERNEL[537903.765581] add /devices/virtual/net/lo/queues/rx-0 (queues) ACTION=add DEVPATH=/devices/virtual/net/lo/queues/rx-0 SEQNUM=13589 SUBSYSTEM=queues UDEV_LOG=3 KERNEL[537903.765683] add /devices/virtual/net/lo/queues/tx-0 (queues) ACTION=add DEVPATH=/devices/virtual/net/lo/queues/tx-0 SEQNUM=13590 SUBSYSTEM=queues UDEV_LOG=3 KERNEL[537903.844154] remove /devices/virtual/net/lo/queues/rx-0 (queues) ACTION=remove DEVPATH=/devices/virtual/net/lo/queues/rx-0 SEQNUM=13591 SUBSYSTEM=queues UDEV_LOG=3 KERNEL[537903.844192] remove /devices/virtual/net/lo/queues/tx-0 (queues) ACTION=remove DEVPATH=/devices/virtual/net/lo/queues/tx-0 SEQNUM=13592 SUBSYSTEM=queues UDEV_LOG=3 To try to track it further, I wrote a systemtap script (available at http://jim.sh/~jim/tmp/monitor.stp). It dumps the result of netlink_broadcast_filtered at lib/kobject_uevent.c:248, and then dumps the uevent_seqnum and environment at the end of the same function. It seems to show that netlink_broadcast_filter is failing to send out the event, with -ESRCH: $ sudo ./monitor.stp begin ----- netlink_broadcast_filtered: -3 (ESRCH) netlink_broadcast_filtered: -3 (ESRCH) event was: uevent_seqnum: 13588 "ACTION=add" "DEVPATH=/devices/virtual/net/lo" "SUBSYSTEM=net" "INTERFACE=lo" "IFINDEX=68" "SEQNUM=13588" ----- netlink_broadcast_filtered: 0x0 netlink_broadcast_filtered: -3 (ESRCH) event was: uevent_seqnum: 13589 "ACTION=add" "DEVPATH=/devices/virtual/net/lo/queues/rx-0" "SUBSYSTEM=queues" "SEQNUM=13589" ----- netlink_broadcast_filtered: 0x0 netlink_broadcast_filtered: -3 (ESRCH) event was: uevent_seqnum: 13590 "ACTION=add" "DEVPATH=/devices/virtual/net/lo/queues/tx-0" "SUBSYSTEM=queues" "SEQNUM=13590" ----- netlink_broadcast_filtered: 0x0 netlink_broadcast_filtered: -3 (ESRCH) event was: uevent_seqnum: 13591 "ACTION=remove" "DEVPATH=/devices/virtual/net/lo/queues/rx-0" "SUBSYSTEM=queues" "SEQNUM=13591" ----- netlink_broadcast_filtered: 0x0 netlink_broadcast_filtered: -3 (ESRCH) event was: uevent_seqnum: 13592 "ACTION=remove" "DEVPATH=/devices/virtual/net/lo/queues/tx-0" "SUBSYSTEM=queues" "SEQNUM=13592" ----- netlink_broadcast_filtered: -3 (ESRCH) netlink_broadcast_filtered: -3 (ESRCH) event was: uevent_seqnum: 13593 "ACTION=remove" "DEVPATH=/devices/virtual/net/lo" "SUBSYSTEM=net" "INTERFACE=lo" "IFINDEX=68" "SEQNUM=13593" ----- ^Cend Is it expected that those events would not be sent like that? If not, is there something else I can do to track this further? Or, if that's expected behavior, is there anything "udevadm settle" can do to avoid the timeout? -jim -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-hotplug" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html