On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 23:53, William Hubbs <w.d.hubbs@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 11:23:00PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: >> On Jul 30, Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@xxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> > We just gave up supporting the split of tools in / vs. /usr. It does >> You did, as shown many times other distributions surely did not. >> >> I don't even know /how/ I could stop supporting a standalone /usr: some >> distributions actually support upgrading a system to the next release, >> and this cannot require repartitioning. > > Right, I have had a separate /usr on all of my installed systems for > years, and I don't know of a reason having this shouldn't be supported. Claiming as a distro that booting up with and empty /usr, with 'half' of the tools missing, is just wishful thinking, and it the end not more than a lie. In reality It works reliably only for limited requirements regarding device config. I see all these bugs for many years now. > I would rather see us work on fixing the tools so that it can still be > done. Honestly, I don't think that will ever happen. It's just too much stuff to fix and change. Very basic server-like setups will just continue to work as they did before. But more and more of the new stuff will just fail in non-interesting ways. All things that expect the new stuff to run properly, need to get an initramfs that can mount /usr before init is started, or need to copy /usr back to the rootfs. There is no other realistic option, really. Kay -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-hotplug" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html