On Thu, 24 Feb 2011, Peter Zijlstra wrote: > On Thu, 2011-02-24 at 21:47 +0100, Thomas Gleixner wrote: > > On Thu, 24 Feb 2011, Peter Zijlstra wrote: > > > > > On Thu, 2011-02-24 at 15:24 -0500, Nicolas Pitre wrote: > > > > > > > Most SMP ARM processors are going to use it soon. Powering down idle > > > > cores provides substantial power saving. > > > > > > And why can't regular idle paths be used? CPU hotplug is a massively > > > expensive operation. > > > > To achieve the same result from idle, you need to exclude the core > > from any unwanted wakeup. At the moment cpu unplug is the only way to > > achieve that. > > Right, everything is a nail because all we have is a hammer like. > > > If you want to do the same from idle, then we need the isolation > > features Frederic is working on for RT/HPC. > > > > They allow us to isolate cores completely for totaly different > > reasons, but it could be resused to provide full isolation of a core > > in a very deep power state. > > Exactly. > > > That would solve the problem w/o going through kstompmachine > > Right, kstopmachine is a large part of the problem, but cpu hotplug > really does an insane amount of work if all you want is to idle the > core. As far as I can tell the isolation stuff covers lot's of the problems including RCU, but there is still a way to go. And the good new is that, when a cpu is idle it has not much state to preserve if its properly isolated and the memory is not going away. Thanks, tglx -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-hotplug" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html