[CC: linux-hotplug aka the udev list] On 10/7/09, Michael Guntsche <mike@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Hello list, > > (Please CC me on any replies since I am not subscribed to the list.) > > After upgrading to 2.6.31.2 I noticed a strange behaviour with my > /dev/ttySx entries. I tried earlier kernels too and saw the same thing > happening, albeit not as often. So what's the probem? > > Short description: > Although I see this in dmesg > serial 00:05: activated > 00:05: ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A > serial 00:06: activated > 00:06: ttyS1 at I/O 0x2f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A > > very often after boot either ttyS0 or ttyS1 is missing under /dev. > I tried to figure out what was happening and did the following. > > * stopped udevd > * rmmod 8250_pnp > * rmmod 8250 > > No more /dev/ttySx entries under dev. > > Then I started udevd --debug and loaded 8250. > As a result ttyS[0123] were created. Then I loaded 8250_pnp. > Now here the problem starts (normally after a few rmmod;modprobe cycles). > I removed the 8250_pnp module again and the ttyS entries stayed (I think > because of the 8250 module). Upon re-inserting the 8250_pnp module > disappeared vanished. > I think this is part of the relevant udev output > > 1254937120.013500 [24944] event_queue_delete: seq 10438 done with 0 > 1254937120.016933 [24944] event_queue_insert: seq 10439 queued, 'remove' > 'tty' > 1254937120.017101 [24944] udev_monitor_send_device: passed 148 bytes to > monitor 0x813a1f0 > 1254937120.017245 [25361] worker_new: seq 10439 running > 1254937120.017387 [25361] udev_device_read_db: device 0x8149f80 filled > with db symlink data '/dev/ttyS1' > 1254937120.017611 [25361] update_link: no reference left, remove > '/dev/char/4:65' > 1254937120.018123 [24944] event_queue_insert: seq 10440 queued, 'add' > 'tty' > 1254937120.018314 [24944] udev_monitor_send_device: passed 136 bytes to > monitor 0x813a1f0 > 1254937120.018473 [25362] worker_new: seq 10440 running > 1254937120.018629 [25362] udev_device_new_from_syspath: device 0x814a048 > has devpath '/devices/pnp0/00:06/tty/ttyS1' > 1254937120.018763 [25362] udev_rules_apply_to_event: LINK 'char/4:65' > /lib/udev/rules.d/50-udev-default.rules:2 > 1254937120.018943 [25362] udev_device_new_from_syspath: device 0x813a1f0 > has devpath '/devices/pnp0/00:06' > 1254937120.019085 [25362] udev_device_new_from_syspath: device 0x814a3d0 > has devpath '/devices/pnp0' > 1254937120.019207 [25362] udev_rules_apply_to_event: GROUP 20 > /lib/udev/rules.d/91-permissions.rules:48 > 1254937120.019301 [25362] udev_event_execute_rules: no node name set, > will use device name 'ttyS1' > 1254937120.019395 [25362] udev_device_update_db: create db link (ttyS1 > char/4:65) > 1254937120.019476 [25362] udev_node_add: creating device node > '/dev/ttyS1', devnum=4:65, mode=0660, uid=0, gid=20 > 1254937120.019597 [25362] udev_node_mknod: preserve file '/dev/ttyS1', > because it has correct dev_t > 1254937120.019850 [25362] update_link: '/dev/char/4:65' with target > '/dev/ttyS1' has the highest priority 0, create it > 1254937120.019994 [25362] node_symlink: preserve already existing > symlink '/dev/char/4:65' to '../ttyS1' > 1254937120.020122 [25362] udev_monitor_send_device: passed -1 bytes to > monitor 0x814a8d8 > 1254937120.020223 [25362] worker_new: seq 10440 processed with 0 > 1254937120.020375 [24944] event_queue_delete: seq 10440 done with 0 > 1254937120.020527 [24944] event_queue_insert: seq 10441 queued, 'add' > 'drivers' > 1254937120.020697 [24944] udev_monitor_send_device: passed 117 bytes to > monitor 0x813a1f0 > 1254937120.020840 [25362] worker_new: seq 10441 running > 1254937120.021093 [25362] udev_monitor_send_device: passed -1 bytes to > monitor 0x814a8d8 > 1254937120.021212 [25362] worker_new: seq 10441 processed with 0 > 1254937120.021491 [25361] udev_node_remove: removing device node > '/dev/ttyS1' > 1254937120.021695 [25361] udev_monitor_send_device: passed -1 bytes to > monitor 0x8149740 > 1254937120.021794 [25361] worker_new: seq 10439 processed with 0 > 1254937120.021941 [24944] event_queue_delete: seq 10441 done with 0 > 1254937120.022067 [24944] event_queue_delete: seq 10439 done with 0 > 1254937174.180067 [24944] event_queue_insert: seq 10442 queued, 'add' > 'uids' > 1254937174.180250 [24944] udev_monitor_send_device: passed 109 bytes to > monitor 0x813a1f0 > 1254937174.181362 [25361] worker_new: seq 10442 running > 1254937174.181645 [25361] udev_monitor_send_device: passed -1 bytes to > monitor 0x8149740 > 1254937174.182118 [25361] worker_new: seq 10442 processed with 0 > 1254937174.182249 [24944] event_queue_delete: seq 10442 done with 0 > 1254937174.217080 [24944] event_queue_insert: seq 10443 queued, 'remove' > 'uids' > 1254937174.217226 [24944] udev_monitor_send_device: passed 112 bytes to > monitor 0x813a1f0 > 1254937174.217330 [25361] worker_new: seq 10443 running > 1254937174.217466 [25361] udev_monitor_send_device: passed -1 bytes to > monitor 0x8149740 > 1254937174.217542 [25361] worker_new: seq 10443 processed with 0 > 1254937174.217647 [24944] event_queue_delete: seq 10443 done with 0 > > > It looks there is a race here. The code sees that ttyS1 is existing and > wants to reuse it > but at the same time deletes it. So I end up with either no ttyS0 or > ttyS1. I would not really care if this was just happening during the > rmmod;modprobe shuffle but this also happens fairly often during boot as > well. A headless system is connected via ttyS0 and I have to either > create the entry manually or restart udev to be able to connect to > it. I tried this on 2.6.30.2, 2.6.31 and 2.6.31.2 with the latest udev > from debian and from the git tree. Good sleuthing. Udev would have avoided the race prior to 82c785e "udevd: remove check for dev_t, DEVPATH_OLD takes care of that" (the "check" removed here used to serialize events based on the device major:minor number). So - udev probably needs to add the check back. It might also be the case that future kernels could set DEVPATH_OLD as suggested. I don't know the gory details of 8250_pnp though. 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