On Thu, 2009-09-17 at 14:59 -0700, David Rientjes wrote: > On Thu, 17 Sep 2009, Eric Paris wrote: > > > Absolutely 100% udevd related. It always pops right when udev starts. > > Every time. I don't know how to get that to come out on the serial > > port, you only get to see the kernel messages (although there is nothing > > on the screen other than "Starting udev" > > > > Reverting 3f2aa307c4d26b4ed6509d0a79e8254c9e07e921 causes the problem to > > go away. I now am running a 79b520e87e kernel + your patch (adding > > console_verbose()) + reverting 3f2aa307c4d2 and it seems to be working. > > > > Isolating udevd down to an interactivity scheduling change isn't _that_ > bizarre. I think the setting of UDEVD_PRIORITY is already mostly > arbitrary anyway and it'll allow 192 children on your 512M machine by > default unless you changed UDEVD_MAX_CHILDS for uid 0. > > The default timeout for idle workers is 3 seconds, which may just happen > to be long enough to panic your machine because of low memory. If that's > the case, I don't believe that it's a scheduler issue but rather a root > abuse of setting all udevd threads to be OOM_DISABLE. > > What is your udevd --version? The latest is udev-146 released last month. 145 Let me try and clone the vm some I don't break my reproducer. I'll see if adding more memory fixes it. Doesn't look like Fedora has built a -146 yet, I'll see if I can get one of those as well. udev bug, configuration issue, whatever, or not, it's a regression that I used to be able to boot and updating my kernel leaves me unable to boot. I think we all agree when 512M of memory isn't enough to boot to runlevel 3 we've got a problem :) -Eric -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-hotplug" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html