Re: Who mounts sysfs?

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On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 5:28 PM, Greg KH<greg@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 04:53:07PM +0100, Will Newton wrote:
>> On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 4:18 PM, Greg KH<greg@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> > On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 11:36:29AM +0100, Will Newton wrote:
>> >> Hi all,
>> >>
>> >> I'm trying to get the libertas driver working on an embedded
>> >> development board and I've run into what looks like a sysfs problem.
>> >> Although I'm actually using the BusyBox mdev hotplug helper rather
>> >> than udev, I hope this is the right list to be asking this question.
>> >
>> > For busybox questions, not really, but we reserve the right to poke fun
>> > at you for using mdev :)
>> >
>> >> What appears to be happening is I get my initramfs extracted, so I
>> >> have access to the various necessary files including the hotplug
>> >> helper and my firmware files. This step is taken care of by the rootfs
>> >> initcall level. Then the driver initcalls are run, including the
>> >> libertas setup routines, which call request_firmware. request_firmware
>> >> fires off a uevent and calls the hotplug helper. The hotplug helper
>> >> looks for the /sys/class/firmware entry for the libertas device, but
>> >> it doesn't find one because I don't appear to have a mounted sysfs on
>> >> the /sys mountpoint.
>> >>
>> >> So my question is: who should be mounting sysfs here? init will mount
>> >> sysfs, but is run much later than the device initcalls.
>> >
>> > You need to mount sysfs as one of the first things to have happen.  Look
>> > at your distro's startup scripts as an example of this.
>>
>> Yes, I want my sysfs mounted as early as possible, but userspace (via
>> /sbin/init) does not get a chance to do this until after the device
>> initcalls have been run. I'm interested to know if there's a standard
>> way to get sysfs mounted before /sbin/init is run.
>
> There isn't.

Ok, so we cannot expect sysfs to be mounted on /sys before /sbin/init
has been run?

What do we do with callers of request_firmware prior to /sbin/init
running? Should drivers that require firmware always be modules?

I would rather build in my drivers monolithically if possible for ease
of deployment and boot speed.

Is there some non-standard other way of mounting sysfs people are
using in this situation?

>> I could modify mdev to mount sysfs if it detects that it isn't
>> already, but that seems like something of a hack.
>
> Yeah, that sounds wrong.  Look at how your desktop distro does this,
> this shouldn't be an issue.

Looks like RHEL calls mount in /etc/rc.sysinit, which is still a bit
late for drivers calling request_firmware that are built in to the
kernel.
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