On Fri, 2024-12-27 at 00:42 +0200, Jouni Malinen wrote: > Would you happen to know whether this behavior is defined clearly > somewhere in a public document? Is this just rotating the derived PTK by > three octets to make this no work with anything else without any other > real reason for doing so? And that is the only difference between this > and how standard WPA works? Below are some documents which provide more details about this. But yes, there is (seemingly) no reason to this besides preventing interoperability with standard consumer devices. Also, the PTK stuff is not the only difference, the documents below detail the others (I didn't know of them at the time of writing my previous message). https://libdrc.org/docs/re/wifi.html has some reverse engineered information on the Wii U's differences (N.B. DRC refers to the gamepad (client) and DRH to the Wii U (access point)). https://github.com/rolandoislas/drc-hostap/blob/master/README.DRC describes the changes in the patched wpa_supplicant. https://github.com/rolandoislas/drc-hostap/compare/2462f34..5c6490e shows the changes from upstream. Hopefully this helps. > In practice, this would likely require a network profile specific > configuration item to allow a specific network to use this type of > different PTK derivation while not having any impact for any other > configured networks. That does sound like the most sensible option. Thank you, I guess I'll start hacking on this with the caveat I don't really know what I'm doing. _______________________________________________ Hostap mailing list Hostap@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/hostap