Good morning, I just join the hostap mailing list so please forgive me if I am touching a subject which is already addressed. I work for for a company that makes (home-) alarms and has a central unit which talks WiFi. Both uplink (wpa_supplicant) and acts as an AP (hostapd) for sub-nodes (stations). The system is closed, eg. the user/customer can't use the AP for anything else. We have a database of all nodes that can be connected to the central unit and generates a hostapd.conf and a wpa_psk.conf. A generated PSK for each node. (Each node will be provided with its PSK via a second channel, a 868 Mhz radio.) The problem we have is that we want to know when a node is authenticated (and deauthenticated) by hostapd. We use the control interface (that hostapd_cli uses) today for this. The bad part of this is that it is a datagram named unix socket. Not really well suitable for a server system to talk to hostapd with. It is more adopted for a client (hostapd_cli). We get state problems if hostapd dies. Since it is an datagram socket we don't get notices that the other end closed down. If/when hostapd restarts we can't be sure that we connected to the new cli socket fast enough that we didn't miss any authed stations. We have to re-list all authed clients every now and then in order to make sure we are in sync. We have to ping over the socket so make sure we still connected. To add more, hostapd removes the socket from file system and create it. Adding to a slight "file not found"-problem for us. We had a number of state related problems. We also have to reload the entire hostapd when new nodes (stations) are added or removed in the configured PSK file. The daemon providing hostapd isn't running as root for security reasons. We would like to express this a bit more exact than just file system permissions. We do not want to use radius for this as this complicates things and doesn't fit with our environment at all. Since we already use DBUS for about everything else in our system, we would like to use it with hostapd as well. DBUS also has the possibility to configure policy for permissions. We would need the following methods and signals: 1. method: Add new station with its own PSK 2. method: Remove station 3. signal: Station was authed 4. signal Station was deauthed 5. Possibly: Method: List all added stations 6. Possibly: Method: List all authed stations First question is if there is such a patch in any branch anywhere? If not, we are willing to do the work for this and offer it to hostapd. We see two solutions: 1. Integrate DBUS-support in the event loop. I see that wpa_supplicant has DBUS-support, so something like how wpa_supplicant works. 2. If this community doesn't like this idea we are thinking of adding a dbus-support in a parallel thread inside hostapd. That thread will map DBUS to the internal control interface socket to get it to the event loop. Idea here is to have a patch that will always apply even when hostapd updates. To keep the function away from the hostapd core and isolate the code. The patch will be offered to anyone who wants it. Of course our goal is to give back to the community. We do have a specific need, and a specific problem to solve. We will probably not implement a DBUS method/signal for everything possible in hostapd to make the DBUS interface "complete". But I guess a start is better than nothing. I'd be happy to hear any feedback on the idea. Any limitations, any do or don't, or other general comments before we start. We do not have any limitations that conflicts with GPL or any other open community policy. We are happy to share the solution. -- Best regards, Joakim Lotsengård _______________________________________________ Hostap mailing list Hostap@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/hostap