On Tue, 2017-06-06 at 11:50 +0200, Stefan Salewski wrote: > Some years ago I read about floating references as described in > > https://developer.gnome.org/gobject/stable/gobject-The-Base-Object-Type.html > > Of course that makes sense. > > Newly created objects get ref count 1, but are floating. If they get > put into a container element, floating ref is converted to ordinary > ref, and ref count stays at 1. First, note that this is _only_ for initially unowned objects, which GtkWidgets and some others happen to be; and this is mostly convenience to avoid having to type extra g_object_unref() lines in C code. To be honest I dont feel like this approach really makes sense, I much prefer the autorelease pool approach taken by NextStep's objective C implementation, where the semantic of giving away ownership is expressed by pushing an object onto the nearest autorelease pool on the call stack; usually as a part of a return statement. A new object is always on an autorelease pool, and if ownership is not claimed by the time you exit the nearest autorelease pool stack frame, it gets cleaned up automatically. This way you generally communicate through a return statement whether A.) You are granting access to an object you retain ownership of or B.) You are giving the object away through your return statement, by pushing it onto the nearest autorelease pool on the stack However, floating refs are what we had with GtkObject and now that these floating initially unowned things found their way into GObject, theres not really any way to turn back the clock and change it. > But I was wondering, why for newly created objects ref count is not > just zero, so when the element is put into a container it is just > increased to one. In a way, it already is. Whether it is the actual ref_count that is zero, or whether there is just a separate floating flag I think is quite immaterial; you need to have some state to mark the floating object after g_object_new() returns otherwise it is in an invalid state until the first call to g_object_ref(). The fact that the count itself is 1, is mostly irrelevant. Cheers, -Tristan _______________________________________________ gtk-list mailing list gtk-list@xxxxxxxxx https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-list
