Hello! No not at all! The window manager is just a "helper". Infact the W-window system was written as a "policyfree" environment. It was a design idea *not to have* the application dependent on the window - mangager". So this is *not* a strange thing at all. *NO*! functionality is dependent on the window mangager! Some programing toolkit are a little bit crippeled to handle itself in respect with resize, fonts and sutch. Gtk have some issues without window mangager - but not mutch. If you write a X-window application without a toolkit you have compleet control. (This is *verry* akward though). So if you want to write a kiosk there is *no need* to have a window manger. /gh Den 2016-03-18 kl. 06:00, skrev Jasper St. Pierre: > I highly recommend against this. A window manager should be around to > manage windows, since a lot of functionality to applications is > provided by the WM. Having it missing could cause strange bugs. > > Please just use a lightweight window manager like Matchbox or metacity. > > On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 9:33 PM, Göran Hasse <gorhas@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> This is quite simple. >> >> You have to send in the geometry to the GTK application so that is self >> can decide its geometry. >> >> You don't need any window manager. >> >> I run a lot of FreeBSD computers this way. >> >> In rc.local you run something like >> >> ------------------------------- >> #!/usr/local/bin/bash >> >> /usr/sbin/ntpdate -s 0.ubuntu.pool.ntp.org >> >> DISPLAY=:0.0 >> export DISPLAY >> >> /usr/local/bin/X -ac & >> >> # Let the x-server have time to start >> sleep 20 >> >> # Connect from any IP >> /usr/local/bin/xhost + & >> >> # Remove the cursor from the screen, turn off screensaver >> /usr/local/bin/unclutter -root -idle 1 & >> /usr/local/bin/xset -dpms & >> /usr/local/bin/xset s off & >> >> # set background >> # https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X11_color_names >> /usr/local/bin/xsetroot -solid Grey & >> >> # show local time >> TZ=CEST >> export TZ >> >> # Startscript for infotable at LEV >> DISPLAY=192.168.37.88:0.0 ./draw-text -x 0 -y 0 -X 896 -Y 307 -g logo -L "" -f 100 & >> ... >> >> ---------------------------------------------------- >> >> Note that the gtk-widget have to "resize" itself. So you must program it to >> read its own "geometry". x , y , X Y (and some other stuff). >> >> /gh >> >> Den 2016-03-18 kl. 01:30, skrev Anatol Pomozov: >>> Hi >>> >>> I am trying to implement a simple Kiosk-like web application. The >>> application will run fullscreen all the time and show web pages. I my >>> case it will be project's build status. I want to use a simple >>> computer like a RaspberryPi. And I want to avoid starting heavy >>> environments like KDE or Gnome. >>> >>> Is there any good example/tutorial on this topic? >>> >>> In fact I already have a simple GTK application that uses WebKit >>> engine. I can run it both in Gnome and without it by using xinit. I >>> have a few questions about it: >>> >>> - gtk_window_fullscreen() works fine with Gnome but with xinit it does >>> not expand the window. Does it mean that fullscreen is actually a DE >>> feature? What is the best way to make fullscreen app in XWindow? Right >>> now I use gdk_screen_get_width/height and then set default size. >>> >>> - If I run webkit in XWindows it shows pages with horrible fonts. How >>> to make the browser fonts similar to what I see in my Gnome desktop? >>> Where to start reading about font handling in the modern Linux >>> graphical stack? >>> >>> - It looks like Kodi player at RaspberryPi does not not use xinit at >>> all. It looks like RaspberryPi has a direct framebuffer feature. Is it >>> possible to do it with my webkit-centric application? I can't find any >>> details on this topic. >>> >>> Did anybody make something similar? I would love to hear the >>> experience in making DE-less applications. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> gtk-list mailing list >>> gtk-list@xxxxxxxxx >>> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-list >>> >> >> -- >> Göran Hasse >> Raditex Control AB >> http://www.rscada.se >> OrgNr: 556611-8773 >> email: gorhas@xxxxxxxxxx >> tel: 019-450105 >> mob: 070-5530148 >> _______________________________________________ >> gtk-list mailing list >> gtk-list@xxxxxxxxx >> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-list > > > -- Göran Hasse Raditex Control AB http://www.rscada.se OrgNr: 556611-8773 email: gorhas@xxxxxxxxxx tel: 019-450105 mob: 070-5530148 _______________________________________________ gtk-list mailing list gtk-list@xxxxxxxxx https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-list