> a hint to 60MB of sourcecode (18.000+ pages > if printed out) is no good answer to such a > question from someone new to gtk. Especially > with all that hurdles like GSEAL to understand > it. Well, I not so new in gtk+. I'm here more than a year. This thread is just to clarify a question that's not clarify for me, because I've never been behind the low level of a window system... And yes, I agree that search on 60 MB of sourcecode is a good way to clarify this, so I came here and created this thread. Thanks for all that respond my question, it's now clear to me. 2009/12/29 David Nečas <yeti@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>: > On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 02:19:38PM +0100, Joost wrote: >> a hint to 60MB of sourcecode (18.000+ pages >> if printed out) is no good answer to such a >> question from someone new to gtk. Especially >> with all that hurdles like GSEAL to understand >> it. > > Someone new to Gtk+ but knowing X or GDI+the windowing bits of Win32 or > something similar just looks at the Gdk docs table of contents and says > `I see' as he notices the familiar topics: windows, rectangles, bitmaps, > drawing primitives, font/text handling, devices, etc. (Of course, *how* > Gdk handles them still involves ugly technical code, but that's > expected.) > > Someone new to both Gtk+ and the fundamentals does not need to know that > Gdk *exists*. There are many more important things to learn first if > you want to develop Gtk+ apps. > > But if he's curious and wishes to study the low-level stuff then, by all > means, he should look at the source code. But first look at some > overview of X because the influence of X concepts on Gdk is strong and > evident (and due to X's importance and age much more have been written > about it than about Gdk). Actually, going to MSDN and reading about > Win32 might do too. > >> A clue to understanding gtk is certainly to >> understand the difference between gtk.Window and >> gtk.gdk.Window (here in the spelling of pygtk). >> Thus to read and thoroughly understand >> >> http://library.gnome.org/devel/gtk/stable/GtkWindow.html >> >> and >> >> http://library.gnome.org/devel/gdk/stable/gdk-Windows.html > > Aside from the first short paragraph, the GtkWindow documentation is > utter gibberish if you don't already know *what* it's talking about. > > For instance, the first paragraph is immediately followed by a > complicated 100+ lines example showing how to do composited windows. > What the hell are composited windows? (I know, but this is the likely > reaction.) > > So, no, don't read this to figure out what Gdk does. > > Yeti > > _______________________________________________ > gtk-list mailing list > gtk-list@xxxxxxxxx > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-list > -- Thanks, Frederico Schardong, SOLIS - Open source solutions www.solis.coop.br Linux registered user #500582 _______________________________________________ gtk-list mailing list gtk-list@xxxxxxxxx http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-list
