> 2) Is this side effect relevant for Haskell? The C function > (...) definitely has a side effect. But no language wrapping > this function should need to care about it. (...) > So only side-effects that are side-effects for the abstract > language are considered. All calls to g_gtype_get_type() and > gtk_foo_get_type() return the same constant. So does it matter > for the abstract language how this constant is implemented? I usually consider all foreign code to have possible effects. I see no beneficts in doing otherwise, although I don't speak for other haskellers. If I dress something into a Haskell "pure" value, I have no guarantees on when it is going to be first determinated -- for instance, I can't be sure g_type_init has been called before gtk_foo_get_type() -- and I get little in exchange. Just to show you how I got into trouble: using the usual tools for binding from Haskell, I have to choose between taking values at compile time or runtime. Since I can't assume all values are available at compile time, I need to have a function that returns it at runtime. So, as an example, I would write a helper function. int helper_G_TYPE_DOUBLE () { return G_TYPE_DOUBLE; } This is not usually a problem, as I have a few macros to do that for me. But I didn't do that with G_TYPE_GTYPE because it was among many constants, and I toke the lazy path. Thanks, Maurício _______________________________________________ gtk-list mailing list gtk-list@xxxxxxxxx http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-list