Hi I have been having some email trouble so I had to start a new thread with this email. Michael and others understand with this computer I run an old RH7.0 when the autotools didn't exist. I have had to install them all manually. My other computers run RH 9 fedora or whatever this one doesn't have the HD space. I'm running into some dependency trouble with installing autogen. But autoconf is fine and I still get the gtk error with it installed. I'll work some more and see what I get. Bill _______________________________________________ gtk-list mailing list gtk-list@xxxxxxxxx http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-list