Ok I have two copies of autoconf and automake installed now. One for global use in /usr and one for the glib pkg-config and so on in /usr/local. That may be part of my problem too. I found a pkgconfig directory in /usr and some other pkgconfig stuff in /usr/local. It's all in usr/local now. Bill _______________________________________________ gtk-list@xxxxxxxxx http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-list