Hi, Is there a simple way to test if a widget really is visible (i.e. the user can actually see it). GTK_WIDGET_VISIBLE returns true if the widget has been set to show, but that does not mean that it is actually visible - if it is in a box that is currently hidden then the widget is not visible on the window. One option should be to recursively use gtk_widget_get_parent to check the visibility of each parent up to the top window, but is there a simpler way to do it? Ian _______________________________________________ gtk-list@xxxxxxxxx http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-list