> is this still true? does anybody care? is there a way to avoid pango > entirely and still get AA fonts inside GTK2? will this ever be fixed > before everyone is using h/w acceleration to print button labels? > > the issue raised here will *kill* ardour dead, and would force us to > also have to abandon GTK for Qt (a move I would really, really not want > to make). some clarification would help .... Everyone has something to complain about. Yes, Gtk+ 2.x is much slower than Gtk+ 1.x, but you also have to take into consideration two things. First, there are a ton of new features in 2.x that are very useful such as new widgets. Second, computers are a lot faster now. Look at what he is saying: 40%-60% of a 1.2 GHz processor. Well, first of all, that is a very slow processor, but I don't think that is constant. I am running an Athlon 2500+ and a Sempron 2800+ in my laptop and have never seen any problems with the speed of Gtk+ that were significant. Of course there is always room for improvement, but from what I have been seeing in discussions across the net, there is a big focus on making Gtk+ more efficient. Lastly, I would like to say one thing. Gtk+ 1.x may be faster, but I refuse to use any applications that still use it. Compared to Gtk+ 2.x applications, they look horrible. I can't stand it because, yes they may be using X fonts which are faster, but it also has the blocky/amateur look that comes with that. In conclusion, if speed is a concern, I would recommend just maintaining both the Gtk+ 1.x & 2.x trees because your team has already put a lot of work into both. On the other hand, if you realize that most people are running machines capable of handling a larger library, 2.x is very worth using. (Don't use Qt. You will alienate every Gnome user because Qt looks terrible on Gnome. Take this from someone that cannot even look at KDE because it tears me apart. It's an aesthetic thing...) I hope this helps. And just to note, I'm not trying to start a flame about Gnome vs. KDE ... to each his own even though this is the Gtk list... --- Andrew Krause andrew@xxxxxxxxxxxx www.openldev.org _______________________________________________ gtk-list@xxxxxxxxx http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-list