(apologies if you end up with two copies of this, I sent the first one from an unsubscribed address). Hi, I'm a wikipedia editor, and I spotted someone adding something to the GTK article and would value seeing a variety of opinions on it. Here is the article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GIMP_Toolkit It's not a particularly good article, IMO, as it lacks detail and isn't well organised (I didn't write it) -- so anyone who would like to improve it, feel free. However, that's not the reason I'm writing this. This is the edit made by user TAW: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php? title=GIMP_Toolkit&diff=prev&oldid=20710212 and to put it in context, this is the edit history of the article: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php? title=GIMP_Toolkit&curid=46156&action=history I reverted the edit (which is why you can't see it when you just visit the article, rather than delve into its page history). I removed it for the following reasons: It's Point Of View: all wikipedia articles must be, or aspire to be, non-point of view. It's mostly opinion. He was trying to make a case against GTK, rather than write an encyclopedia article. It's simply not suitable for an encyclopedia article about GTK (it's not a dev guide or a howto). User TAW provides a link to a response from Owen Taylor (to one of TAW's posts) on the gtk-devel list to back up his case: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gtk-devel-list/2005-August/msg00033.html and IMO that makes his edit "original research", which is not allowed on Wikipedia. Wikipedia is supposed to be a repository for established facts, not every theory out there. Normally I wouldn't bother your list with something like this -- I just assumed he was blowing off steam because he didn't get the response he wanted on the gtk-devel-list. However, he is now querying my removal of his edit: "I'm not trying to make any case, I'm merely documenting the facts, and they're not disputed by anyone. I and Ruby/GNOME2 developers found a problem that requires a change to Gtk architecture to fix correctly. One of the Gtk developers that answered agreed that the problem exists, but he's clear they're not going to fix it. So nobody's disputing the facts. The problem (cooperation across GC boundaries) is not unusual, it should be documented in general in any decent reference on GC, and in the Gtk case it seems it has been already discussed, even as early as 1998, wrt Guile bindings. If you cared to read No original research, you'd see quite clearly that this has nothing to do with my edit. Taw 08:29, 12 August 2005 (UTC)" While I'm convinced his edit is unsuitable, regardless of the merits of his technical details, Wikipedia works best when lots of people well- versed in the matter are aware of the edit dispute and the issues around it. The discussion is taking place on the article's talk page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:GIMP_Toolkit And, of course, anyone is very welcome to edit and improve the article itself. Thanks. _______________________________________________ gtk-list@xxxxxxxxx http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-list
