On Sat, 2005-07-30 at 06:42 -0700, Al Hooton wrote: > Owen, > > On Sat, 2005-07-30 at 08:54 -0400, Owen Taylor wrote: > > On Thu, 2005-07-28 at 22:45 -0700, Al Hooton wrote: > > > > > > FYI, for those interested, that bug is here (still not resolved), but > > > with further discussion: > > > > > > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=104341 > > > > > > > This has nothing to do with fonts not showing up. GTK+ and Xft will use > > in order: > > > > - Xft/DPI XSETTING > > - Xft.dpi X resource > > - DPI from the screen > > > > So if gnome-settings-daemon isn't there to provide the DPI, it will > > *still* have a DPI. GTK+ works perfectly fine in non-GNOME environments. > > > I've definitely not dug in to the details of this, so let me know if > I'm wrong. I had been lead to believe that if the app has to fall back > to the X resource dpi or the screen dpi that these may actually be wrong > in some situations, thus causing the problem. I have been able to > recreate this problem very reliably by doing the following: > > - Install Mandrake 10.1 Official, installing all the included desktops > - Choose to run KDE as your desktop > - Run a gtk+ app (the test apps that come with gtkextra are where I > first saw this problem, but it affects many gtk+ apps for me if the > environment is installed as described above) > > Once you see the very small fonts problem, run gnome-settings-daemon. > The problem is resolved and the fonts are a size that is readable. > > Also, the problem was not exactly stated in the original post. It's > not that the fonts don't show up at all, it's that they are *extremely* > small, just one or two screen pixels tall and unreadable. If you monitor reports *wildly* wrong DDC information - it says it is 10 feet across, say. Then you might have problems like this. (Along similar lines one of the GTK+ hackers recently had a problem where he put DisplaySize "10247x768" in his xorg.conf, not realizing that that line was the screen size in millimeters, not the resolution) Regards, Owen
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