Also, you can get GTK+ installers with glade packaged from http://gladewin32.sourceforge.net. It requires a bit of hacking to get everything working together, like setting up your path to find mingw, pkg-config, or setting up PKG_CONFIG_PATH to find the .pc file for GTK+. So for your convenience, you may want to copy out all the .a files from the lib directory in your GTK+ installation directory, and paste them somewhere automatically on the gcc lib path, like the lib path for your mingw installation. I don't suggest the same for include files, but you can also copy the headers into a directory in your include folder for mingw, and make sure you change your include directives from #include <gtk.h> to #include <[directory where they are located]/gtk.h> or whatnot. If not, you can just write makefiles, but run minw32-make instead of make. Or you could use Dev-C++ and configure new template projects or create empty projects with custom parameters. Benjamin Lau P/s I use Dev-C++ and the occasional makefile to practice makefile writing. Pp/s Dev-C++: http://www.bloodshed.net __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Log on to Messenger with your mobile phone! http://sg.messenger.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ gtk-list@xxxxxxxxx http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-list