It seems the way buttons render has changed between GTK2.4(Fedora Core2) and GTK2.6(Fedora Core3). With 2.6, the button label is positioned one pixel lower in the button and the label requested height is one pixel shorter. It also appears that the text inside the label is one pixel lower. All this results in 2 less pixels of text rendering space inside a button. I'm trying to figure out if I tighten up the button label rendering, allowing me to have small buttons. I've checked the container border width for the button and its zero on both systems. I'm thinking it might be the focus-padding, but I'm at a loss how to actually look at this value since I don't understand how the Gvalue the get_property() returns work. I'm specifically setting the height of a button to 20 pixels high and setting the font to "Bitstream Vera Sans 8". It looks fine on my Fedora Core2 box, but on a Fedora Core3 system its clipping letters with descenders. After examining screen shots from both systems, the font is fine, but the label is rendering different. All suggestions welcome. _______________________________________________ gtk-list@xxxxxxxxx http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-list