Hello folks, I can't resist commenting about the oh-so-popular-with-gtk "give me some numbers" comentary. Every once in a while there's somebody saying GTK is slow, and there's another someone asking for numbers... i think we should try to figure a pattern here. If 1 person was saying GTK is slow, that would be fine. But it's not 1 person... lots of people have that same opinion. But we don't have to compare it with Windows. Let's compare it with KDE. Let's take, for example, a very simple application, such as Gedit. Forget huge applications such as Mozilla, let's just focus on a simple one. Now, boot your machine on KDE, and fire up Kedit. Then reboot on GTK, and fire up Gedit. Unless you've got very modern, you will see Kedit fires up much much faster than Gedit. Depending on the hardware you're using, even simpler apps, such as gnome-calculator, are slow to startup. Just my 2 cents, J.V. _______________________________________________ gtk-list@xxxxxxxxx http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-list