Heck, I've use glib, gtk, pango, atk to build other software. And I _know_ that it compiles clean. At this point (after digging thru the include files) I'm not sure I know how it could compile at all. Big changes between the glib-1.2 and the glib-2.0 version and specificly regarding glib.h. In three instances that I've found glib.h contains (and only contains) includes of <glib/gxxxxx.h> form and the gxxxx are in alpha order When I was building something (evolution, gtkhtml or something) the compile failed. It failed because G_BEGIN_DECL had not been defined when first used by gtypes.h when included by galloca.h. and likewise for a few other things. I rearranged glib.h so that #include <glib/gmacro.h> #include <glib/gtypes.h> #include <glib/galloca.h> were first and then I was stumped by another problem the typedef 'gsize' isn't defined in glib. (it's used extensively but not defined -and- it was defined in glib.h (version 1.2). The first and closest typedef of 'gsize' is in the gobj include directory. so why does any of this compile? I would have thought the test cases would have caught those compile type errors. (heck the only thing I can think of is that other includes had already defined those typedefs from another set of library references. But I think that glib should not be dependant on any other of the gnome libraries unless it is so documented..) -- Kermit Tensmeyer (at home) They don't own my opinions mine! all mine! _______________________________________________ gtk-list@xxxxxxxxx http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-list