gtk-2 as created by glade-2 works very different than gtk as created by glade 0.6. The gtkrc files don't even seem to be compatible. I don't have the time to wrestle with recompiling everything with -g set on gcc so that I can use gdb. Is there perchance some tool that will tell what style gets associated with what widget if/when you run a gtk program. I tried running xfontsel and put font = "-adobe-helvetica-*-r-*-*-24-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-" in the appropriate styles in ~/.gtkrc-2.0 but the text won't get any larger. Larry _______________________________________________ gtk-list@xxxxxxxxx http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-list