Hello, for the file manager http://segusoland.sourceforge.net (see screenshots), I have the following widget hierarchy: scrolled window --viewport ----vbox1 ------hbox1 --------eventbox -------------hbox2 ----------------image1 ----------------vbox2 --------------------label_name --------------------label_dir --------------------label_size --------------------label_date --------button1 (the GO button) .... Unfortunately, the scrolledwindow (and therefore also the viewport and vbox1) is very narrow horizontally, and the filenames are very long. So I need to wrap the filenames: I need to add newlines to label_name so it does not cross the right boundary of the scrolledwindow. (TextViews are way too slow, tested. And the wrap option of labels wraps at a fixed size, hardcoded, so it is useless for me) Currently I do a brutal wrapping of the label at character 26 (hardcoded). But if the font/resolution/window-size changes, this is obviously wrong. In order to wrap correctly, I believe I must use pango somehow, and take into account: 1) the width of image1 2) the width of button1 (which can also be hidden!) 3) the current font width, and the width of a string with a given font 4) the width of the scrolledwindow//viewport/vbox1 But I don't know how. In other words, I must calculate the child size given the parent size. I don't even know if this is possible with gtk, which generally seems to calculate the parent size given the child size, not viceversa. I beg your help, Maurizio _______________________________________________ gtk-list@xxxxxxxxx http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-list