On Mon, 2003-10-13 at 13:59, kameron cole wrote: > Consider the JDK...also, like the GTK, a "toolkit", which, ostensibly, > contains all the "tools" you'll need to start developing Java/Gnome > apps; and that is the goal, after all, isn't it? - to get developers > right to the task of developing. The goal really isn't to instruct > them, through trial-by-fire, in the ins and outs of software > installation. > > At first, the jdk install was troublesome. But, nowadays, it's just > download, run their installer (regardless of the platform), set you PATH > (if you feel like it, for convenience), and there you go...start > programming in Java. > > I'd like that to be available for the GTK, as well. Of course, the main > problem is freedom - freedom to configure my personal set up like I > want. And, no unessecary libraries - if i already have glib at the right > level, i don't want some other installation to install it again, over my > existing installation. This is a good thing - to the extent that it is > managable. You didn't install the JDK from source. But you are comparing that to a from-scratch source install of GTK+. Generally, most people find the appropriate packages for their Linux distribution, and install them; a process that takes at most 5 minutes. They may even have the GTK+ development environment already installed. I'm not saying that GTK+ installation is as easy as it should be. The two things I'd like to see in the future: - To have, in the GTK+ release announcements, information about obtaining binary packages for various operating systems. - Some sort of standard build script to allow building GTK+ and all dependencies into a self-contained prefix. But if you want "freedom" to install things with your own configure options, if you want to install in a fashion integrated with the rest of the system, that is inevitably going to involve quite a learning curve. Regards, Owen _______________________________________________ gtk-list@xxxxxxxxx http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-list