Let`s say i want to achieve extremely space-efficient list views. Let`s say i want CellRendererText to be $FONT_HEIGHT_MAX + 2 pixels high, so that no pixels are wasted at all. How do i do this? Ok, we have the "ypad" g_object property of the CellRenderer. And the expected way to drop the wasted pixels is to set this property to zero. And yes, it by default equals to 2 (which is a perfect default, but remember, we go for extreme space saving). However setting it to zero still leaves more than 5 pixels wasted for no apparent reason. Below is a test program which shows this problem. But it is not the only one i`ve met on my quest. Also its seems to be impossible to set the size of a cell renderer below 10 pixels high. And this is very frustrating because given some ultra small fonts this could be extremely cool. Think XMMS playlist for example. ---------------8<---------------- #include <gtk/gtk.h> int main(int argc, char **argv) { GtkTreeViewColumn *col; GtkCellRenderer *rend; GtkListStore *store; GtkTreeIter iter; GtkWidget *window; GtkWidget *view; gtk_init(&argc, &argv); window = gtk_window_new(GTK_WINDOW_TOPLEVEL); store = gtk_list_store_new(1, G_TYPE_STRING, -1); view = gtk_tree_view_new_with_model(GTK_TREE_MODEL(store)); rend = gtk_cell_renderer_text_new(); g_object_set(G_OBJECT(rend), "ypad", 0, NULL); col = gtk_tree_view_column_new_with_attributes ("hrmph", rend, "text", 0, NULL); gtk_tree_view_append_column(GTK_TREE_VIEW(view), col); gtk_container_add(GTK_CONTAINER(window), view); gtk_widget_show(view); gtk_widget_show(window); gtk_list_store_append(store, &iter); gtk_list_store_set(store, &iter, 0, "1. ABC123T", -1); gtk_list_store_append(store, &iter); gtk_list_store_set(store, &iter, 0, "2. DEF345T", -1); gtk_list_store_append(store, &iter); gtk_list_store_set(store, &iter, 0, "3. GHI678T", -1); gtk_main(); return 0; } ---------------8<---------------- regards, Samium Gromoff _______________________________________________ gtk-list@xxxxxxxxx http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-list