Openphone will not work, just because authentication was changed to also check for the MAC address. Reason I brought this up is I was wondering if this feature would make GnuGK more robust -----Original Message----- From: openh323gk-users-admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:openh323gk-users-admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Zygmuntowicz Michal Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 1:14 AM To: openh323gk-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: GK for Behind-of-Linksys Router Endpoints I think you did not undestand me. Can you use ANY H.323 endpoint, like ohphone, openphone, Cisco ATA, and it will work behind NAT? They can provide H.323-compiliant endpoints with some propriertary extensions - but the extensions are not H.323 compiliant and are not standard. How does this relate to GnuGk? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Abano, Fernando" <fabano@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 6:00 PM > The endpoints are not proprietary. They are H.323-compliant endpoints. > > Yes, I think it might have some extensions to allow for NAT traversal as > it > can even do double NAT traversal (the Linksys router can be deployed > either > as an internet gateway, or it can be part of an internal network that is > connected to another internet gateway. > > -----Original Message----- > From: openh323gk-users-admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:openh323gk-users-admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of > Zygmuntowicz Michal > Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 12:50 AM > To: openh323gk-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: Re: GK for Behind-of-Linksys Router Endpoints > > As you write: "proprietary" which means not truly H.323 compiliant. > It surely has some extensions to allow NAT traversal. NAT traversal > is trivial, if you don't follow standards. > > Can you use any H.323 endpoint with this gatekeeper and it works > behind NAT? Or can you use those proprietary endpoints behind NAT > with any H.323 gatekeeper? The answer is no... > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Abano, Fernando" <fabano@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 5:29 PM > > >> What I have seen was this "proprietary" GK and all that was needed by the >> endpoints was broadband connection. The EPs can be public or private. And >> it >> allows multiple EPs behind a single Linksys router. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: openh323gk-users-admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> [mailto:openh323gk-users-admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of >> Zygmuntowicz Michal >> Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 12:23 AM >> To: openh323gk-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: Re: GK for Behind-of-Linksys Router Endpoints >> >> One side note: You don't have to forward any ports >> if you have a child GnuGk gatekeeper behind NAT >> and its parent is also GnuGk. The child must be running >> in a proxy mode, the parent should have at least ProxyForNAT=1 >> set. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Stewart Nelson" <sn@xxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 5:08 PM >> >> >>> Hi Fernando, >>> >>>> I have noticed that if I have an endpoint connected to a Linksys >>>> router, >>>> or >>>> some other dumb router, I need to DMZ the EP. >>> >>> Not quite true, you just need to forward the required ports. >>> >>>> What happens then if I have multiple endpoints behind a single dumb >>>> router? >>> >>> If the endpoints can use different signaling and media ports, no >>> problem. >>> For example, the ATA-186 looks like two independent endpoints and works >>> fine. >>> However, this is an administrative hassle if you have many endpoints on >>> different private addresses. >>> >>>> Not sure how other developers did it, but I saw a product that allows >>>> multiple endpoints behind the dumb router, without any "special" config >>>> changes on the router, register to an outside GK, receive inbound calls >>>> from >>>> the PSTN, and make outbound calls to the PSTN. >>> >>>> Is this possible with GNUGK? >>> >>> You can run gnugk behind the NAT and have many local endpoints register >>> to it. However, you still need the NAT to forward required ports to >>> gnugk. >>> >>> I can't see how the product you describe could work with a "generic" >>> outside GK; I'd appreciate a link to the documentation. Also, I suspect >>> that the outside GK would have to proxy everything, which is a >>> performance problem in many cases. >>> >>> While it is often useful to put an endpoint behind a NAT over which >>> you have no control, e.g. in a hotel, it is hard for me to imagine a >>> situation where you install multiple endpoints, yet are not granted >>> the right to have some ports forwarded. Could you please give some >>> more details about your application? >>> >>> If you are just trying to provide PSTN access to multiple users at >>> a site, similar to Vonage, Packet8, Broadvoice, etc., IMHO you should >>> use SIP, just like those providers do. >>> >>> --Stewart ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Sybase ASE Linux Express Edition - download now for FREE LinuxWorld Reader's Choice Award Winner for best database on Linux. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=5588&alloc_id=12065&op=click _______________________________________________________ List: Openh323gk-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Archive: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8549 Homepage: http://www.gnugk.org/ ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Sybase ASE Linux Express Edition - download now for FREE LinuxWorld Reader's Choice Award Winner for best database on Linux. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=5588&alloc_id=12065&op=click _______________________________________________________ List: Openh323gk-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Archive: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8549 Homepage: http://www.gnugk.org/