I have a brand new installation of Debian testing amd64. After spending a day and a half installing apps and configuring stuff, I rebooted. After logging in I had no window manager and no gnome panel. Faced with a blank screen, I can open a terminal and start them both manually, and then everything is fine. I created a new user. Logging in as the new user I have the window manager and gnome panel. Conclusion: The problem is somewhere in my config files. I copied my .gnome2, .gnome2_private and .gconf files to the new user's home folder, then logged back in as the new user. The new user still has metacity and gnome-panel. I also deleted my .gnome2, .gnome2_private and .gconf files so they would be recreated on logging in. They were recreated as expected, but I still had no metacity or gnome-panel. Conclusion: The problem is somewhere in my configuration, but not in .gconf, .gnome2 or .gnome2_private. Using Synaptic I did a complete removal of gnome-panel and metacity and all their dependencies and related files. Then I reinstalled them. After logging out and back in again I still have no metacity or gnome-panel. I have spent hours googling trying to figure out exactly what script or config file launches metacity and gnome-panel after a user logs in. That information must be a state secret. [Frustration_Mode:on] I sure hope someone can offer some suggestions. Else I'll have no choice but to give up on Gnome and go to KDE or something else. I just can't spend the rest of my life trying to fix Gnome. [Frustration_mode:off] _______________________________________________ gnome-list mailing list gnome-list@xxxxxxxxx http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list