On Tue, Jul 31, 2007 at 10:46:13AM -0400, Van wrote: > I REALLY need some kind of solution to this but I guess no one has more > of a clue than I do. Since at least Sean Dynan has a similar problem, I > present this further idea in hope that this may help more than just me > (or stimulate a better idea in someone else). I've seen some Gnome freezes too, with the 2.16 that comes with the RHEL5 clone (Scientific Linux) that I run. Most annoying. It may be memory related. Firefox is a likely culprit; like most browsers, Firefox caches quite a bit of data. That cache can be cleared, most easily by restarting Firefox. However, Flash animations (youtube, banner ads, etc.) also squirrel away data in memory associated with the X server, and some of that doesn't seem to get released after Firefox is stopped. Over time, the memory associated with X just keeps creeping upwards, and is only reset by logging out. And it may be related to something else. I see excessive restore failures after suspending my laptop (about once every 5 days) and that may be another symptom of something going on. This happens less often if I am diligent about logout/login every day or so. However, those are kernel panics (no response to ping, much less ssh), so this could be an entirely different problem. What irks me is that there is apparently no instrumentation or debugging for these behaviors. I have access to better tools for probing submicron transistors running at 10GHz under 8 layers of metal than I have for debugging linux on my own laptop. That is very wrong. Keith -- Keith Lofstrom keithl@xxxxxxxxxx Voice (503)-520-1993 KLIC --- Keith Lofstrom Integrated Circuits --- "Your Ideas in Silicon" Design Contracting in Bipolar and CMOS - Analog, Digital, and Scan ICs _______________________________________________ gnome-list mailing list gnome-list@xxxxxxxxx http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list