>>> You'll need a different WM or WM-helper (like devil's pie). Most of those >>> functions aren't something the WM should be doing, they're stuff the app >>> should be doing. The WM is in a very poor position to do those things >>> properly and accurately; identifying windows is _not_ an easy task, >>> especially given how many broken applications there are. >> Perhaps, but I thought WindowMaker was pretty good at it and you could do >> awesome things with it, whether or not it was done ugly behind the scenes. > I agree, and instead of pushing the functions to the apps, the apps > could be fixed (better identifing methods), and all this unified into > the WMs, so interface would be easier for all users, the same way it > is being proposed that a folder is a window is a folder, it could be > that user can control all windows in one way, no window is different. Exactly... if you leave it up to the apps, you just know that you'll have a bunch of apps that you want this to do, but they don't support it-- or not properly. Like, for some reason I can't keep GKrellM off the Window List when GNOME starts; instead it disappears after I click on the button. Same for gaim connection window; it stays after it's connected. I want it minimized, off the Window List, etc. This would rock, but do you see gaim implementing this feature anytime soon? A standardized way to do this properly would be most welcome. Ivo _______________________________________________ gnome-list mailing list gnome-list@xxxxxxxxx http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list