On Mon, 5 Jan 2004, Jason A. Pfeil wrote: > That is more than likely correct. It is also extremely likely that the > bug is in whatever device driver is in charge of hardware which the > process is using. I have forgotten the details of this particular > process. What is it? The unkillable processes are nautilus and magicdev. I will propose the theory that actually magicdev is unkillable since nautilus is the parent process and is presumably waiting for magicdev. Would this make nautilus unkillable as well? Is magicdev what provides the menu of removable devices to mount/unmount? I have a USB card reader, USB CDRW, as well as IDE CDROM and standard floppy, and a USB digital camera which becomes a USB drive when connected. These all show up when I right click on desktop and select 'Disks'. They even show up from LTSP desktops. I wouldn't want that in a large company, but it is convenient at home since we all share the devices. (So how do you enable/disable allowing non-console users to mount/umount removable devices?) So perhaps magicdevice is tickling a bug in a USB or ide-cd driver. How would I find out? Process listing and parameters were posted previously. -- Stuart D. Gathman <stuart@xxxxxxxx> Business Management Systems Inc. Phone: 703 591-0911 Fax: 703 591-6154 "[Microsoft] products are even less buggy than others, in terms of per capita usage." - Steve Balmer, Microsoft Corporation _______________________________________________ gnome-list mailing list gnome-list@xxxxxxxxx http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list