Hi, [added CC to gstreamer-devel] On Tue, 2003-12-09 at 19:28, Lee Braiden wrote: > This might be a bit provocational (sorry), but I'm wondering why you don't > work with the gstreamer folks, and just make codecs or bugfix the ui? That > would make helix a MUCH better opensource project, imho. Being one of the GStreamer developers, I'd like to advocate this point too. Given the current license of the (closed-source) Real codecs included in Helix, it's hard for us to add proper Real support to the default Gnome media framework. If you guys are looking for true integration in the Gnome desktop, GStreamer is the way to go. We already provide Gtk+/Gnome video widgets, integration in the file manager, etc. I'd love to wrap up all of the Real codecs myself, but the license (as far as I've read it) doesn't allow for this to be included in distributions, which makes it sort of useless. There's lots of options (but all require some action from your side) to overcome this: * change the license to allow wrapping inside opensource media frameworks. We'd be happy to wrap them up. In the best case, change it in such a way that distributions can include it in their default install. * create your own plug-ins (outside of the GStreamer Plug-ins package) and make it available to the public on your website. Not as good as the first option, but still good. Note that we try to make the various future GStreamer 0.8.x releases to be API/ABI stable, so this should work quite well for you. We won't guarantee ABI/API stability, but that's more of a lousy disclaimer than something you should really worry about. The 0.6.x series have been API/ABI stable, too. * opensource your Real codecs so we can integrate them directly in the GStreamer Plug-ins package (hey, I can always try. ;) ). If you're interested in any of this, let us know. We'll be happy to cooperate. Whichever of the options you choose, we all win. Ronald -- Ronald Bultje <rbultje@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Linux Video/Multimedia developer _______________________________________________ gnome-list mailing list gnome-list@xxxxxxxxx http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list
