Hi Amar,
we are also going to start using glusterfs with quotas for home folders. Quotas is one of the main requirements and i'd like to add a +1 to keep the quota feature, as already said maintaining quotas for each brick at Xfs level does not seem really practical.
thanks
On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 6:38 PM Amar Tumballi <atumball@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
_______________________________________________On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 8:21 PM, Gudrun Mareike Amedick <g.amedick@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:Hi,
we're planning a dispersed volume with at least 50 project directories. Each of those has its own quota ranging between 0.1TB and 200TB. Comparing XFS
project quotas over several servers and bricks to make sure their total matches the desired value doesn't really sound practical. It would probably be
possible to create and maintain 50 volumes and more, but it doesn't seem to be a desirable solution. The quotas aren't fixed and resizing a volume is
not as trivial as changing the quota.
Quota was in the past and still is a very comfortable way to solve this.
But what is the new recommended way for such a setting when the quota is going to be deprecated?
Thanks for the feedback. Helps us to prioritize. Will get back on this.-AmarKind regards
Gudrun
> These are our set of initial features which we propose to take out of ‘fully’ supported features. While we are in the process of making theAm Donnerstag, den 19.07.2018, 12:26 +0530 schrieb Amar Tumballi:
> Hi all,
>
> Over last 12 years of Gluster, we have developed many features, and continue to support most of it till now. But along the way, we have figured out
> better methods of doing things. Also we are not actively maintaining some of these features.
>
> We are now thinking of cleaning up some of these ‘unsupported’ features, and mark them as ‘SunSet’ (i.e., would be totally taken out of codebase in
> following releases) in next upcoming release, v5.0. The release notes will provide options for smoothly migrating to the supported configurations.
>
> If you are using any of these features, do let us know, so that we can help you with ‘migration’.. Also, we are happy to guide new developers to
> work on those components which are not actively being maintained by current set of developers.
>
> List of features hitting sunset:
>
> ‘cluster/stripe’ translator:
>
> This translator was developed very early in the evolution of GlusterFS, and addressed one of the very common question of Distributed FS, which is
> “What happens if one of my file is bigger than the available brick. Say, I have 2 TB hard drive, exported in glusterfs, my file is 3 TB”. While it
> solved the purpose, it was very hard to handle failure scenarios, and give a real good experience to our users with this feature. Over the time,
> Gluster solved the problem with it’s ‘Shard’ feature, which solves the problem in much better way, and provides much better solution with existing
> well supported stack. Hence the proposal for Deprecation.
>
> If you are using this feature, then do write to us, as it needs a proper migration from existing volume to a new full supported volume type before
> you upgrade.
>
> ‘storage/bd’ translator:
>
> This feature got into the code base 5 years back with this patch[1]. Plan was to use a block device directly as a brick, which would help to handle
> disk-image storage much easily in glusterfs.
>
> As the feature is not getting more contribution, and we are not seeing any user traction on this, would like to propose for Deprecation.
>
> If you are using the feature, plan to move to a supported gluster volume configuration, and have your setup ‘supported’ before upgrading to your new
> gluster version.
>
> ‘RDMA’ transport support:
>
> Gluster started supporting RDMA while ib-verbs was still new, and very high-end infra around that time were using Infiniband. Engineers did work
> with Mellanox, and got the technology into GlusterFS for better data migration, data copy. While current day kernels support very good speed with
> IPoIB module itself, and there are no more bandwidth for experts in these area to maintain the feature, we recommend migrating over to TCP (IP
> based) network for your volume.
>
> If you are successfully using RDMA transport, do get in touch with us to prioritize the migration plan for your volume. Plan is to work on this
> after the release, so by version 6.0, we will have a cleaner transport code, which just needs to support one type.
>
> ‘Tiering’ feature
>
> Gluster’s tiering feature which was planned to be providing an option to keep your ‘hot’ data in different location than your cold data, so one can
> get better performance. While we saw some users for the feature, it needs much more attention to be completely bug free. At the time, we are not
> having any active maintainers for the feature, and hence suggesting to take it out of the ‘supported’ tag.
>
> If you are willing to take it up, and maintain it, do let us know, and we are happy to assist you.
>
> If you are already using tiering feature, before upgrading, make sure to do gluster volume tier detach all the bricks before upgrading to next
> release. Also, we recommend you to use features like dmcache on your LVM setup to get best performance from bricks.
>
> ‘Quota’
>
> This is a call out for ‘Quota’ feature, to let you all know that it will be ‘no new development’ state. While this feature is ‘actively’ in use by
> many people, the challenges we have in accounting mechanisms involved, has made it hard to achieve good performance with the feature. Also, the
> amount of extended attribute get/set operations while using the feature is not very ideal. Hence we recommend our users to move towards setting
> quota on backend bricks directly (ie, XFS project quota), or to use different volumes for different directories etc.
>
> As the feature wouldn’t be deprecated immediately, the feature doesn’t need a migration plan when you upgrade to newer version, but if you are a new
> user, we wouldn’t recommend setting quota feature. By the release dates, we will be publishing our best alternatives guide for gluster’s current
> quota feature.
>
> Note that if you want to contribute to the feature, we have project quota based issue open[2] Happy to get contributions, and help in getting a
> newer approach to Quota.
>
>
> user/developer experience of the project much better with providing well maintained codebase, we may come up with few more set of features which we
> may possibly consider to move out of support, and hence keep watching this space.
>
> [1] - http://review.gluster.org/4809
>
> [2] - https://github.com/gluster/glusterfs/issues/184
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Vijay, Shyam, Amar
>
>
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