Btw, I've now noticed at least 5 variations in toggling binary option values. Are they all interchangeable, or will using the wrong value not work in some cases?
yes/no
true/false
True/False
on/off
enable/disable
It's quite a confusing/inconsistent practice, especially given that many options will accept any value without erroring out/validation.
On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 11:22 PM, Artem Russakovskii <archon810@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Thanks for the link. Looking at the status of that doc, it isn't quite ready yet, and there's no mention of the option.Does it mean that whatever is ready now in 4.0.1 is incomplete but can be enabled via granular-entry-heal=on, and when it is complete, it'll become the default and the flag will simply go away?Is there any risk enabling the option now in 4.0.1?On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 11:16 PM, Ravishankar N <ravishankar@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On 04/18/2018 10:35 AM, Artem Russakovskii wrote:
Yes, 'diff' employs the rchecksum FOP which does a sha256 checksum which can consume CPU. So yes it is sort of shifting the load from CPU to the network. But if your average file size is small, it would make sense to copy the entire file instead of computing checksums.Hi Ravi,
Could you please expand on how these would help?
By forcing full here, we move the logic from the CPU to network, thus decreasing CPU utilization, is that right?
This is assuming the CPU and disk utilization are caused by the differ and not by lstat and other calls or something.Option: cluster.data-self-heal-algorithm
Default Value: (null)
Description: Select between "full", "diff". The "full" algorithm copies the entire file from source to sink. The "diff" algorithm copies to sink only those blocks whose checksums don't match with those of source. If no option is configured the option is chosen dynamically as follows: If the file does not exist on one of the sinks or empty file exists or if the source file size is about the same as page size the entire file will be read and written i.e "full" algo, otherwise "diff" algo is chosen.
I really have no idea what this means and how/why it would help. Any more info on this option?
https://github.com/gluster/glusterfs-specs/blob/master/done/ should help.GlusterFS%203.8/granular-entry -self-healing.md
Regards,
Ravi
Option: cluster.granular-entry-heal
Default Value: no
Description: If this option is enabled, self-heal will resort to granular way of recording changelogs and doing entry self-heal.
Thank you.
On Tue, Apr 17, 2018 at 9:58 PM, Ravishankar N <ravishankar@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
It is likely that self-heal is causing the CPU spike due to the flood of lookups/ locks and checksum fops that the self-heal-daemon sends to the bricks.
On 04/18/2018 10:14 AM, Artem Russakovskii wrote:
Following up here on a related and very serious for us issue.
I took down one of the 4 replicate gluster servers for maintenance today. There are 2 gluster volumes totaling about 600GB. Not that much data. After the server comes back online, it starts auto healing and pretty much all operations on gluster freeze for many minutes.
For example, I was trying to run an ls -alrt in a folder with 7300 files, and it took a good 15-20 minutes before returning.
During this time, I can see iostat show 100% utilization on the brick, heal status takes many minutes to return, glusterfsd uses up tons of CPU (I saw it spike to 600%). gluster already has massive performance issues for me, but healing after a 4-hour downtime is on another level of bad perf.
For example, this command took many minutes to run:
gluster volume heal androidpolice_data3 info summaryBrick nexus2:/mnt/nexus2_block4/androidpolice_data3 Status: ConnectedTotal Number of entries: 91Number of entries in heal pending: 90Number of entries in split-brain: 0Number of entries possibly healing: 1
Brick forge:/mnt/forge_block4/androidpolice_data3 Status: ConnectedTotal Number of entries: 87Number of entries in heal pending: 86Number of entries in split-brain: 0Number of entries possibly healing: 1
Brick hive:/mnt/hive_block4/androidpolice_data3 Status: ConnectedTotal Number of entries: 87Number of entries in heal pending: 86Number of entries in split-brain: 0Number of entries possibly healing: 1
Brick citadel:/mnt/citadel_block4/androidpolice_data3 Status: ConnectedTotal Number of entries: 0Number of entries in heal pending: 0Number of entries in split-brain: 0Number of entries possibly healing: 0
Statistics showed a diminishing number of failed heals:...Ending time of crawl: Tue Apr 17 21:13:08 2018
Type of crawl: INDEXNo. of entries healed: 2No. of entries in split-brain: 0No. of heal failed entries: 102
Starting time of crawl: Tue Apr 17 21:13:09 2018
Ending time of crawl: Tue Apr 17 21:14:30 2018
Type of crawl: INDEXNo. of entries healed: 4No. of entries in split-brain: 0No. of heal failed entries: 91
Starting time of crawl: Tue Apr 17 21:14:31 2018
Ending time of crawl: Tue Apr 17 21:15:34 2018
Type of crawl: INDEXNo. of entries healed: 0No. of entries in split-brain: 0No. of heal failed entries: 88...
Eventually, everything heals and goes back to at least where the roof isn't on fire anymore.
The server stats and volume options were given in one of the previous replies to this thread.
Any ideas or things I could run and show the output of to help diagnose? I'm also very open to working with someone on the team on a live debugging session if there's interest.
There's a script to control shd's cpu usage using cgroups. That should help in regulating self-heal traffic: https://review.gluster.org/#/c/18404/ (see extras/control-cpu-load.sh)
Other self-heal related volume options that you could change are setting 'cluster.data-self-heal-algorithm' to 'full' and 'granular-entry-heal' to 'enable'. `gluster volume set help` should give you more information about these options.
Thanks,
Ravi
Thank you.
On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 9:56 AM, Artem Russakovskii <archon810@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi Vlad,
I actually saw that post already and even asked a question 4 days ago (https://serverfault.com/questions/517775/glusterfs-direct-i )-o-mode#comment1172497_540917 . The accepted answer also seems to go against your suggestion to enable direct-io-mode as it says it should be disabled for better performance when used just for file accesses.
It'd be great if someone from the Gluster team chimed in about this thread.
On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 7:01 AM, Vlad Kopylov <vladkopy@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Wish I knew or was able to get detailed description of those options myself.
here is direct-io-mode https://serverfault.com/questiSame as you I ran tests on a large volume of files, finding that main delays are in attribute calls, ending up with those mount options to add performance.ons/517775/glusterfs-direct-i- o-mode
I discovered those options through basically googling this user list with people sharing their tests.Not sure I would share your optimism, and rather then going up I downgraded to 3.12 and have no dir view issue now. Though I had to recreate the cluster and had to re-add bricks with existing data.
On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 1:47 AM, Artem Russakovskii <archon810@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi Vlad,
I'm using only localhost: mounts.
Can you please explain what effect each option has on performance issues shown in my posts? "negative-timeout=10,attribute-timeout=30,fopen-keep-cache,d irect-io-mode=enable,fetch-att empts=5" From what I remember, direct-io-mode=enable didn't make a difference in my tests, but I suppose I can try again. The explanations about direct-io-mode are quite confusing on the web in various guides, saying enabling it could make performance worse in some situations and better in others due to OS file cache.
There are also these gluster volume settings, adding to the confusion:Option: performance.strict-o-directDefault Value: offDescription: This option when set to off, ignores the O_DIRECT flag.
Option: performance.nfs.strict-o-direct Default Value: offDescription: This option when set to off, ignores the O_DIRECT flag.
Re: 4.0. I moved to 4.0 after finding out that it fixes the disappearing dirs bug related to cluster.readdir-optimize if you remember (http://lists.gluster.org/pipermail/gluster-users/2018-April ). I was already on 3.13 by then, and 4.0 resolved the issue. It's been stable for me so far, thankfully./033830.html
On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 10:38 PM, Vlad Kopylov <vladkopy@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
you definitely need mount options to /etc/fstabuse ones from here http://lists.gluster.org/piper
mail/gluster-users/2018-April/ 033811.html
I went on with using local mounts to achieve performance as well
Also, 3.12 or 3.10 branches would be preferable for production
On Fri, Apr 6, 2018 at 4:12 AM, Artem Russakovskii <archon810@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
______________________________Hi again,
I'd like to expand on the performance issues and plead for help. Here's one case which shows these odd hiccups: https://i.imgur.com/CXBPjTK.gifv .
In this GIF where I switch back and forth between copy operations on 2 servers, I'm copying a 10GB dir full of .apk and image files.
On server "hive" I'm copying straight from the main disk to an attached volume block (xfs). As you can see, the transfers are relatively speedy and don't hiccup.On server "citadel" I'm copying the same set of data to a 4-replicate gluster which uses block storage as a brick. As you can see, performance is much worse, and there are frequent pauses for many seconds where nothing seems to be happening - just freezes.
All 4 servers have the same specs, and all of them have performance issues with gluster and no such issues when raw xfs block storage is used.
hive has long finished copying the data, while citadel is barely chugging along and is expected to take probably half an hour to an hour. I have over 1TB of data to migrate, at which point if we went live, I'm not even sure gluster would be able to keep up instead of bringing the machines and services down.
Here's the cluster config, though it didn't seem to make any difference performance-wise before I applied the customizations vs after.
Volume Name: apkmirror_data1Type: ReplicateVolume ID: 11ecee7e-d4f8-497a-9994-ceb144d6841e Status: StartedSnapshot Count: 0Number of Bricks: 1 x 4 = 4Transport-type: tcpBricks:Brick1: nexus2:/mnt/nexus2_block1/apkmirror_data1 Brick2: forge:/mnt/forge_block1/apkmirror_data1 Brick3: hive:/mnt/hive_block1/apkmirror_data1 Brick4: citadel:/mnt/citadel_block1/apkmirror_data1 Options Reconfigured:cluster.quorum-count: 1cluster.quorum-type: fixednetwork.ping-timeout: 5network.remote-dio: enableperformance.rda-cache-limit: 256MBperformance.readdir-ahead: onperformance.parallel-readdir: onnetwork.inode-lru-limit: 500000performance.md-cache-timeout: 600performance.cache-invalidation: on performance.stat-prefetch: onfeatures.cache-invalidation-timeout: 600 features.cache-invalidation: oncluster.readdir-optimize: onperformance.io-thread-count: 32server.event-threads: 4client.event-threads: 4performance.read-ahead: offcluster.lookup-optimize: onperformance.cache-size: 1GBcluster.self-heal-daemon: enabletransport.address-family: inetnfs.disable: onperformance.client-io-threads: on
The mounts are done as follows in /etc/fstab:/dev/disk/by-id/scsi-0Linode_Volume_citadel_block1 /mnt/citadel_block1 xfs defaults 0 2
localhost:/apkmirror_data1 /mnt/apkmirror_data1 glusterfs defaults,_netdev 0 0
I'm really not sure if direct-io-mode mount tweaks would do anything here, what the value should be set to, and what it is by default.
The OS is OpenSUSE 42.3, 64-bit. 80GB of RAM, 20 CPUs, hosted by Linode.
I'd really appreciate any help in the matter.
Thank you.
On Thu, Apr 5, 2018 at 11:13 PM, Artem Russakovskii <archon810@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi,
I'm trying to squeeze performance out of gluster on 4 80GB RAM 20-CPU machines where Gluster runs on attached block storage (Linode) in (4 replicate bricks), and so far everything I tried results in sub-optimal performance.
There are many files - mostly images, several million - and many operations take minutes, copying multiple files (even if they're small) suddenly freezes up for seconds at a time, then continues, iostat frequently shows large r_await and w_awaits with 100% utilization for the attached block device, etc.
But anyway, there are many guides out there for small-file performance improvements, but more explanation is needed, and I think more tweaks should be possible.
My question today is about performance.cache-size. Is this a size of cache in RAM? If so, how do I view the current cache size to see if it gets full and I should increase its size? Is it advisable to bump it up if I have many tens of gigs of RAM free?
More generally, in the last 2 months since I first started working with gluster and set a production system live, I've been feeling frustrated because Gluster has a lot of poorly-documented and confusing options. I really wish documentation could be improved with examples and better explanations.
Specifically, it'd be absolutely amazing if the docs offered a strategy for setting each value and ways of determining more optimal values. For example, for performance.cache-size, if it said something like "run command abc to see your current cache size, and if it's hurting, up it, but be aware that it's limited by RAM," it'd be already a huge improvement to the docs. And so on with other options.
The gluster team is quite helpful on this mailing list, but in a reactive rather than proactive way. Perhaps it's tunnel vision once you've worked on a project for so long where less technical explanations and even proper documentation of options takes a back seat, but I encourage you to be more proactive about helping us understand and optimize Gluster.
Thank you.
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