As I read this: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=838784 the bug is, from Gluster's POV, between ext4 and the kernel. Is this correct, that Gluster can't safely use ext4 on recent kernels until ext4's relationship with the kernel is fixed? If Gluster can't be simply patched to fix this, and we want to use ext4 (for which there are good arguments, including a rich toolset), should we be leaning more on the ext4 developers? I see there's a wiki we might document the brokenness on at https://ext4.wiki.kernel.org/ which mentions nothing about Gluster compatibility, and a bugzilla at https://bugzilla.kernel.org/buglist.cgi?product=File+System&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=ASSIGNED&component=ext4 Searching for "ext Gluster" there gives "Zarro Boogs found" though. Should someone who can make a fuller report on this bug than I can be making sure that the ext4 project is focused on this problem? Update: Got interrupted before sending this off. I see from other emails since that T'so has been leaned on, and apparently doesn't want to fix ext4?! I know Ted's got rank. But should we collectively be trying to push this to Linus's attention? I'm unclear whether for practical purposes Ted just _is_ ext4, or whether his co-developers count there. Whit