Joe, all tools are available. All that is needed is a _personal decision_ to use them. It is a personal decision to - not give all your contacts to whatsapp, gmail, apple, hotmail, facebook but use an own cloud instance for it - not drag all your contacts into whatsapp but give them an XMPP account instead - not give google and apple all your tracking data but reflash your mobile and feed your data into your personal mqtt service - not use gmail accounts but use your own private email service - not use zoom,webex,teams et al but use your cloud service for that - not use whatsapp/facebook for voice/video calls but use your XMPP client for that with no need to give your mobile number It's all _there_ _now_. If you don't use it you simply _decided_ against it. Make that transparent to yourself. -- Regards, Stephan On Mon, 7 Jun 2021 14:34:51 -0700 Joe Julian <joe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Most people already use slack for work and most of the projects with > high engagement use it, too. While I agree that I wish the open source > community would adopt open source tools, the reality is we still use > GitHub, Slack, and Zoom for the majority of them. Using the tools that > your community is already using is usually a more effective way of > supporting engagement. > > On 6/7/21 2:18 PM, Stephan von Krawczynski wrote: > > And why don't you just do the right thing and drop these semi-closed-source > > stuff and use XMPP, about the only free/GPLed messenger service. > > It has: > > - no central provider > > - no central servers > > - server software free for anyone to install > > - lots of free xmpp services around > > - crypted or not crypted on user choice > > > > -> https://xmpp.org/ > > > > You use email, why? > > > > -- > > Regards, > > Stephan > > > > > > On Mon, 7 Jun 2021 21:41:11 +0530 > > Amar Tumballi <amar@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > >> We (at least many developers and some users) actively use Slack at > >> https://gluster.slack.com > >> > >> While I agree that it's not a free/open alternative to IRC, it does get > >> many questions answered, and also gets communication happen related to the > >> project. > >> > >> Regards, > >> Amar > >> > >> > >> On Mon, 7 Jun, 2021, 9:27 pm Jordan Erickson, < > >> jerickson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> > >>> I'm relatively new to the community but I would vote for having a point > >>> of presence on libera.chat, or OFTC as some other F/OSS projects are > >>> moving there as an alternative. I use IRC daily for supporting my own > >>> projects as well as related projects such as GlusterFS. Personally I > >>> hadn't heard of Matrix until the whole Freenode fiasco happened, so I > >>> would imagine others may be in the same boat. Anyway, just my $0.02 :) > >>> > >>> > >>> Cheers, > >>> Jordan Erickson > >>> > >>> > >>> On 6/7/21 5:51 AM, Anoop C S wrote: > >>>> Hi all, > >>>> > >>>> I hope many of us are aware of the recent changes that happened at > >>>> Freenode IRC network(in case you are not, feel free to look into > >>>> details based on various resignation letters from long-time then > >>>> Freenode staff starting with [1]). In the light of this take over > >>>> situation, many open source communities have moved over to its > >>>> replacement i.e, libera.chat[2]. > >>>> > >>>> Now I would like to open this up to GlusterFS community to think about > >>>> moving forward with our current IRC channels(#gluster, #gluster-dev and > >>>> #gluster-meeting) on Freenode. How important are those channels for > >>>> GlusterFS project? How about moving over to libera.chat in case we > >>>> stick to IRC communication? > >>>> > >>>> Let's discuss and conclude on the way forward.. > >>>> > >>>> Note:- Matrix[3] platform is also an option nowadays and we do have a > >>>> Gluster room(#gluster:matrix.org) there ! welcome..welcome :-) > >>>> > >>>> Regards, > >>>> Anoop C S > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> [1] https://fuchsnet.ch/freenode-resign-letter.txt > >>>> [2] https://libera.chat/ > >>>> [3] https://matrix.org/ > >>>> > >>>> ________ > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Community Meeting Calendar: > >>>> > >>>> Schedule - > >>>> Every 2nd and 4th Tuesday at 14:30 IST / 09:00 UTC > >>>> Bridge: https://meet.google.com/cpu-eiue-hvk > >>>> Gluster-users mailing list > >>>> Gluster-users@xxxxxxxxxxx > >>>> https://lists.gluster.org/mailman/listinfo/gluster-users > >>>> > >>> -- > >>> Jordan Erickson (PGP: 0x78DD41CB) > >>> Logical Networking Solutions, 707-636-5678 > >>> ________ > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Community Meeting Calendar: > >>> > >>> Schedule - > >>> Every 2nd and 4th Tuesday at 14:30 IST / 09:00 UTC > >>> Bridge: https://meet.google.com/cpu-eiue-hvk > >>> Gluster-users mailing list > >>> Gluster-users@xxxxxxxxxxx > >>> https://lists.gluster.org/mailman/listinfo/gluster-users > >>> > > ------- > > > > Community Meeting Calendar: > > Schedule - > > Every 2nd and 4th Tuesday at 14:30 IST / 09:00 UTC > > Bridge: https://meet.google.com/cpu-eiue-hvk > > > > Gluster-devel mailing list > > Gluster-devel@xxxxxxxxxxx > > https://lists.gluster.org/mailman/listinfo/gluster-devel > > > ------- > > Community Meeting Calendar: > Schedule - > Every 2nd and 4th Tuesday at 14:30 IST / 09:00 UTC > Bridge: https://meet.google.com/cpu-eiue-hvk > > Gluster-devel mailing list > Gluster-devel@xxxxxxxxxxx > https://lists.gluster.org/mailman/listinfo/gluster-devel > ------- Community Meeting Calendar: Schedule - Every 2nd and 4th Tuesday at 14:30 IST / 09:00 UTC Bridge: https://meet.google.com/cpu-eiue-hvk Gluster-devel mailing list Gluster-devel@xxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.gluster.org/mailman/listinfo/gluster-devel