Jeff King <peff@xxxxxxxx> writes: > On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 01:06:26PM +0900, Nanako Shiraishi wrote: > >> Some people prefer to call the pretty-print styles "format", and get >> annoyed to see "git log --format=short" fail. Introduce it as a synonym >> to --pretty so that both can be used interchangeably without breaking >> examples in existing web pages or ppeople's expectations. > > Thinking about this in context of the proposal to support --oneline (et > al), I think this part by itself gives confusing behavior. That is, > --pretty=oneline can be shortened to --oneline, but --pretty=format:$x > cannot be shortened to --format=$x. > > But that is modified by what happens next: > >> Having to say --format="format:%h %s" is redundant because none of the >> predefined pretty-print styles have per-cent sign in it, so this patch >> also makes it possible to say --pretty="%h %s" (and --format="%h %s"). > > This implies that --format=$x is equivalent to --pretty=format:$x, but > the patch actually implements the equivalent of --pretty=tformat:$x. > > So that raises two concerns: > > 1. We have to pick one as the "most common" for this shorthand; are we > sure tformat is it? (Personally, I think it is, but I think it is a > subtle point which we should be sure of). > > 2. This _almost_ fixes the point I raised above. That is, --format=$x > would match its longer --pretty=format:$x counterpart. Except that > --format does _tformat_, which I would have expected to get via > --tformat under such a proposal. I think the patch suffers from the same problem Felipe's patch had, by conflating two issues. Because it had the ":some string with %" shorthand support in addition to "--format is another way to spell --pretty", and it did that only to "--format" side, I initially misunderstood Felipe's patch as primarily addressing "Why do we have to say '--pretty=format:%h %s' when it is obvious from the context that '%h %s' is a format". It turns out that he did not like "pretty" and wanted to be able to say "format" even for the predefined pretty-print styles. If we split this round into two patches, one that makes --format a synonym to --pretty, and then another one that allows --{format,pretty}='%h %s', and *stop there*, then we wouldn't have difficulties. I do not think --oneline is a bad idea, but I do not think we should explain it as "You can write anything that you can write after '--pretty=' without 'pretty=' and they mean the same thing". That's where your concern arises from. You just say "'--pretty=oneline --abbrev-commit' is so often used, so we have a shorthand for the whole thing: --oneline", without implying anything about other things such as --short or --tformat. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe git" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html