Nick Andrew wrote: >On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 02:22:39PM -0400, Avery Pennarun wrote: >> I'm just feeling protective of the future sanity of other developers >> here, hoping they don't have to go through what I did on a multi-week >You're not alone. I've been having trouble with a combination of >fetchmail, procmail and ssmtp, in which situation the ssmtp program >_somehow_ sometimes opens /dev/urandom as file descriptor 0 (while >in controlled circumstances. It's possible that fetchmail or procmail >is doing something stupid - but a little more defensive programming >in ssmtp could avoid the total disaster area of sending an endless >binary stream to an SMTP server. Procmail I can vouch for, it basically assumes your OS is broken and fights it's way back to sanity (it can be setuid root, so it has to be rather careful). Nonetheless, I still maintain that hiding problems doesn't help, it only makes the bugs even rarer and more difficult to find. The filedescriptor problem is a programmer-error, not a user-error, which is why not hiding it should be preferred. If it were a user-error, thing would be different, assisting the user is a Good Thing. -- Sincerely, Stephen R. van den Berg. "Listen carefully, I shall say this only wence." -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe git" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html