On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 11:50 AM, Abdelrazak Younes <younes@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> AsciiDoc is indeed excellent if you want to write in a plain text editor.
> But LyX is easier to use and more porwerful :-)
What is really powerful is TeX. As to LyX, it is leaky abstraction over it.
I have never been able to use without ending up saying, it is so much easier
and much more powerful to use Latex than trying to do the same with LyX. Of
course, LyX looks much better nowadays than used to be, so I decided to give
it another try, and here is my fifteen minutes experience with it.
First, I tried to open FAQ.lyx that you attached to your previous email, and
here is what I see:
===
/tmp/FAW.lix is from a different version of LyX, but the lex2lex script failed
to covert it.
===
This is result was received with two LyX versions that I tried:
LyX Version 1.4.3 (21/09/2006)
LyX 1.5.5 (Sun, May 11, 2008)
Now, I see, that your FAQ was created with LyX 1.6.0svn, which is not released
yet. So, I hope that this issue will be correctly before it will be released.
Otherwise, anyone opening document with 1.6.0 will make it unaccessible to users
of previous versions.
Then I tried to use Formatted reference and everything looks okay until I tried
to generate DVI file, where I was welcome but the following error:
===
Paragraph ended before \@prettyref was complete.
===
What is \@prettyref? What is wrong with my paragraph? Actually, my paragraph is
fine, it is just when you use Formatted reference, you should know that it is
implemented using prettyref TeX package, which requires three letter prefix in
name of each label. Why did not LyX warn me about that? BTW, is really prettyref
is the best package for this job anyway? I remember some TeX experts recommended
some other packages for references.
Finally, I still have not figured out how to the same what AsciiDoc does:
Chapter #, $CHAPTER_NAME
It does not look like that LyX can produce references in this format.
The I tried to insert some verbatim text, and I cannot find the standard way
to do that in LyX. Sure, I can press CTRL-L and type in TeX:
\begin{verbatim}
# git itself (approx. 10MB download):
$ git clone git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/git/git.git
# the linux kernel (approx. 150MB download):
$ git clone git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git
\end{verbatim}
but I don't think that having a lot TeX code is going to help us with
having good formatted HTML version.
BTW, it is really annoying to see TeX code displayed in proportional
fonts and formatted with full adjustment. For instance, the last line
was displayed like this:
$ git clone
git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git
Another rather surprising experience for those who got used to HTML:
Left-click on a reference produces its properties, while the right
click means to go to the label, and once you jump on it, there is
no way to jump back (at least, I was not able to find how to do that).
Well, I wrote all above only because I hope that LyX will continue to
improve. It looks much better now than before. Yet, I will rather stay
with plain text editors for now. Some of them are much more powerful
than Notepad :)
Dmitry
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