Hi,
On Jan 17, 2008, at 12:16 AM, Linus Torvalds wrote:
On Wed, 16 Jan 2008, Pedro Melo wrote:
The difference I see between us is that if I tell my filesystem
that I want to
name my file with a particular string encoded in X, users using
encoding Y
will be able to read it correctly. I like my filesystem to make
that work for
me.
The difference I see between us is that when I tell you that this is
exactly the same thing as your file *contents*, you don't seem to
get it.
I get that you think its the same thing.
What I don't get is why a user should be forced to know what type of
encoding he and the other users are using on all the layers going
down to the filesystem. If two users on different systems or in
different configurations, choose the same unicode string as the name,
why do we need to make it harder for things to just work out?
The content of the file is sacred, we both agree on that. We disagree
on the filename, because for me it's more important that equal
strings, even if encoded to different byte sequences, should be
treated as the same file.
An OS that silently changes the contents of your files is *crap*.
Get it?
I was not talking about content of files, those are sacred. I was
talking about filenames. Those *for me* are not, but are for you. No
problem, we just have different values: I want my computer to work
for me, not me working for the computer. I'm willing to accept a file
system or other layer that normalizes encoding of filenames if that
makes the end-user life easier, specially in a tool distributed by
nature.
An OS that silently changes the contents of your directories is
*crap*.
Get it now?
As I said before, we disagree on file meta-data, not on file
contents. For you, byte in must be the same byte out. For me string
in must be the same string out.
And as I said in the previous email, what I learned today is that in
a distributed project using git, and if you need to use accented
characters, I need to tell all the users to use the same LANG settings.
It's important information, at least for me.
Best regards,
--
Pedro Melo
Blog: http://www.simplicidade.org/notes/
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