Junio, thanks for the response. I am finally getting around to following up. On Wed, 2008-01-02 at 14:12 -0800, Junio C Hamano wrote: > > 1. How to properly represent the history of an individual branch and > > update it when the trunk (or the branch on which it depends) changes. > > Right now, Wayne updates the branch by rebasing; unfortunately, if the > > trunk changes in such a way that one of the intermediate commits no > > longer makes sense, it is impossible to update the branch while > > preserving a record that the intermediate commit once existed. > > I take this to mean a situation like this: > > * There is a series of patch X Y Z that implements some nicety > not present in the mainline yet. This set applies to older > codebase at point A. > > * Newer codebase B does things differently from codebase A and > patch X is no longer needed --- IOW, what X achieves on top > of A has already been incorporated somewhere between A and B. > Applying Y and Z suffices to obtain that nice feature on top > of B. Actually, I was thinking of a change to the mainline that causes a conflict with the patch series. For example, my repository of git was at point A when I made the first draft X of my "gitweb: snapshot cleanups & support for offering multiple formats" change. Then I updated my repository and got commit B, "gitweb.perl - Optionally send archives as .zip files", among others. When I rebased X on top of the new master C, there was a conflict, which I resolved to produce X': X X' / / ---A---...---B---...---C But now, with refs only to C and X', I have lost the information that the previous incarnation of X' was X. Essentially, my objection to rebasing is that I want to keep a history for the patch series containing all of the patched versions that I have released (here X and X'), especially when they differ in interesting ways (i.e., conflict resolutions), and this history should be a first-class object that others can pull from me via the git remote system. I only want to use a separate patch management tool if it is integrated with git. I have some familiarity with StGIT, and I assume guilt is similar. StGIT uses rebasing and keeps an additional "patch changelog" viewable by "stg log" which might seem to be what I want. The trouble is that this changelog behaves more like a reflog than an orderly history, and "stg refresh" does not support storing a user-entered message describing *the change to the patch* in the patch changelog. One option I am considering is to use StGIT and track some subset of the StGIT area itself (.git/patches) in git. The other approach is to maintain the feature patches/branches by merging instead of rebasing. This has two significant advantages: patch history is naturally kept and the full power of git's distributed merge is available. However, it also has two significant disadvantages: the complaint by Linus about "useless merges" mentioned in the git-rerere manpage applies, and it's impossible to fully revert a merge (the ancestry remains and will cause trouble if the merge is redone later). Matt - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe git" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html