Re: [PATCH] t1400: fix --no-create-reflog test and description

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On Mon, Oct 21, 2024 at 06:48:20PM +0200, Kristoffer Haugsbakk wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 21, 2024, at 14:08, Patrick Steinhardt wrote:
> >> […]
> >> Notes (series):
> >>     From the commit message:
> >>
> >>       “ The test itself is fine and does not hide a bug:
> >>         `--no-create-reflog` is not supposed to override
> >>
> >>     A source for that: roundabout through git-branch(1):
> >>
> >>       “ The negated form --no-create-reflog only overrides an earlier
> >>         --create-reflog, but currently does not negate the setting of
> >>         core.logAllRefUpdates.
> >
> > Hm. The "currently" reads as if this was a known shortcoming rather than
> > by design.
>
> I read it as “we might change our minds here—watch out”.  ;)
>
> It feels very emphasized.  Like the documentation was expecting
> your surprise.
>
> >>     I *suppose* that the same applies to update-ref since (I suppose) they
> >>     use the same underlying machinery.
> >>
> >>     See also git-tag(1) which says the same thing.
> >>
> >>     update-ref should document the same thing, then.  I have that marked as
> >>     a todo item.  The changes there are a bit too involved to implicate in
> >>     this submission.
> >
> > So I'm quite torn here. It's documented, even though the documentation
> > doesn't exactly feel like this was designed, but rather like it was a
> > side effect. The test also contradicts the documentation, even though it
> > only worked by chance. And as mentioned above, everywhere else we
> > typically have a design where the command line option overrides the
> > config.
> >
> > Overall I'm rather leaning into the direction of making this work
> > properly. But that would of course be a backwards-incompatible change.
>
> Good point.  It does feel inconsistent.  I agree that the conventional
> pattern (to my knowledge) is to have options override config when the
> options are given.

I agree with you both that it feels inconsistent, but I feel somewhat
uncomfortable changing the behavior here in a backwards incompatible
way.

Even if the original documentation leaves the door open to changing the
behavior, I think that probably a non-zero number of users has either
(a) never read that documentation, or (b) come to rely on it, or (c)
both ;-).

I think if anything we might consider updating the documentation to more
clearly capture the status-quo, but I'd be very hesitant to see a patch
changing the behavior here.

Thanks,
Taylor




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