On 2024-02-04 16:51, Michal Suchánek wrote:
On Sun, Feb 04, 2024 at 04:28:58PM +0100, Dragan Simic wrote:
On 2024-02-04 16:12, Oswald Buddenhagen wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 02, 2024 at 12:50:04PM +0100, Michal Suchánek wrote:
> > Given the open nature of lore it should be feasible to provide
> > additional interfaces on top of it that cater to people used to PRs
> > on popular forge web UIs without hijacking the whole project and the
> > existing tools and interfaces. For some reason people are set on
> > replacing it as a whole, and removing the interfaces they personally
> > don't use,
>
> > calling them obosolete.
> >
> because they positively *are*.
>
> when i started, patch-based code reviews were the norm, and i'm still
> using them for my small project with almost no external contributions.
>
>
> but after working with gerrit code review for over a decade, i find it
> mind-boggling that people are still voluntarily subjecting themselves
> to mail-based reviews for serious high-volume work.
>
> it doesn't matter just how super-proficient you got with your old
> tools. there is just no way you'll get anywhere near as efficient as
> you would with the new ones, if you just were interested enough to
> learn them. migrating the workflows that are worth keeping isn't such
> a bit deal.
Please, keep in mind that not everyone lives in a web browser and
loves to click around. Some people simply prefer to use the CLI
utilities and to press the keys on their keyboards, and are very
efficient while doing that.
The forge vendors found out, and started to provide CLI tools. That's
not really a general argument against forge software. Just as people
living on web is not general argument against e-mail - it's been
brought
to the web a long time ago.
Please, don't get me wrong, I'm not against the GUI and web-based
utilities in the sense of telling other people they're bad or shouldn't
be used. I love the variety and the freedom of choice, so everyone
can freely choose the most suitable option for them.
Though, I'd also expect that everyone respect different choices made
by other people. That's how we keep the variety available.