Re: [PATCH v2] abspath.h file is generated by makeheaders tool

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OK.


On Tue, 18 Oct 2022 at 00:10, Junio C Hamano <gitster@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Junio C Hamano <gitster@xxxxxxxxx> writes:
>
> > Whether the headers mechanically generated gets committed or not,
> > this line of change is unwelcome.  Developers should be able to look
> > at the header files (and interface document, if we ever generate one
> > out of structured comments in the header files) when using common
> > functions that they are not (yet) familiar with, and we want to see
> > our header files manually curated.
>
> I would presume that a possible topic that involve an abspath.h
> header file that did not exist may fly much better if the story were
> this way instead:
>
>     A developer was working on on something and needed to use some
>     function or two in abspath.c that did not have a good
>     explanation in how to use them, what pre- and post- conditions
>     they required, etc.  Naturally, because the developer previously
>     learned how to use functions in dir.c by seeing dir.h and found
>     it a very convenient way to look for things in <frotz>.c
>     described in <frotz>.h, the developer expected to find in
>     abspath.h everything necessary to use the functions.  But the
>     file did not exist.  Instead, interfaces were declared in a more
>     central header file.  Hence the developer proposed to create
>     abspath.h and declare and document extern functions defined in
>     abspath.c in the new header file.  Some in-code comment in front
>     of the function definition in abspath.c are also moved to
>     abspath.h as part of such a change.  And the new file is added
>     and tracked, so we can "git blame" the header file from that
>     point on.
>
> The end result and how that end result brings goodness to the world
> matters.  With such a change, we will have a curated and tracked
> header file that helps our developers to use the API correctly, and
> it may make it easier than the status quo.  One thing to note in the
> above hypothetical story is that it does not matter what tool the
> developer used (or did not use) to prepare the initial draft of
> the abspath.h header file.
>
> And "initial draft" is an important part of the above sentence.  I
> do not think automated tool can produce 100% acceptable final
> result.  The natural order of presenting multiple functions defined
> and associated structure types used in the source may be different
> from how they appear in the source file, and there may need to be
> additional API comment for group of functions added, etc.  But if an
> automation can help preparing the initial draft, I wouldn't forbid
> the use of such a tool.  It's just that the initial draft needs to
> be polished before getting presented to us, and at that point,
> nobody even needs to know how the initial draft was produced.
>
> The two attempts looked more like "I want to find a way to use this
> tool, please help me", to which a responsible maintainer has to say
> "no, please don't".  The thing is, we do not want to have to use it
> ourselves ongoing basis while maintaining abspath.h header file or
> abspath.c source file or Git source code in general.
>
> Thanks.



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