Elijah Newren <newren@xxxxxxxxx> writes: > I suspect we're having an aliasing problem that you're not > recognizing. "ignored" and "excluded" are used interchangeably, note > that patterns from the $GIT_DIR/info/exclude files and patterns from > the file pointed to by core.excludesFile are also lumped together with > the patterns from all the .gitignore files (see the gitignore manual > page). Further, the internal code refers to them all as "excludes" > not as "ignores". All true. > Yes, it outputs the paths that are excluded, as the documentation > said. Perhaps there's a way to reword it to make this clearer? I > don't think we can get rid of the alias given the fact that > $GIT_DIR/info/exclude and core.excludesFile are hard-coded and must be > kept for backward compatibility. But suggestions to improve the > wording would be great. > > Maybe it'd be as simple as replacing "is excluded" with "matches an > ignore/exclude rule"? I smell a continuation of 7ec8125f (check-ignore: fix documentation and implementation to match, 2020-02-18), which appears in 2.26 and later (the way the negative entries in the ignore/exclude mechanism gets handled has changed in Git 2.26, and the documentation has been updated). "Is excluded" is perfectly fine, I think. The first use of that verb in the documentation should be a bit more careful, e.g. "is excluded (aka ignored)" or something. >> IMO the behavior of git-check-ignore is the correct and useful >> behavior > > I'm with you here. Yup, with the old "huh?" fixed in Git 2.26 (which was there simply because check-ignore was not used to be a serious end-user facing program but was more of a debugging aid), I think the behaviour of the command we have today is what we want. >> and the documentation should simply be fixed > > Yes, I agree it's easy to misinterpret. Would my suggested changes help? > >> to reflect the >> fact that it just lists matching entries rather than wrongly claiming >> that it returns the overall result of the ignore calculation. > > I think I understood where the problems were in the documentation that > could lead to misinterpretations in the other two cases you mentioned > earlier in your email, but I don't understand this one. Even the > first sentence you quoted included the phrase that it could "output > the path", so I'm not sure where you think it claims that it'd return > the overall result of the ignore calculation. Could you point out > what in the document led you to believe it was claiming this? Maybe I > could suggest wording improvements for it as well. Or maybe you have > some. It does return *the* matching entry that decided the path's fate. $ (echo '/no-such-*'; echo '!/no-such-*') >>.git/info/exclude $ git check-ignore -v no-such-directory; echo $? .git/info/exclude:14:!/no-such-* no-such-directory 0 Exit status section needs a bit more work. It used to be OK to say "success (0) is returned when we found a path that is ignored", but these days, it is not whether there are ignored paths in the input. It signals if we found an entry in the list of exclude/ignore patterns that actively affects the path's fate. In our project, if we ask the fate of hello.c $ git check-itnore -v hello.c; echo $? 1 because we do not say explicitly that .c files are usually tracked sources. If we did this: $ echo >>.git/info/exclude '!*.c' to explicitly say that .c files are never ignored, it changes the picture: $ git check-itnore -v hello.c; echo $? .git/info/exclude:15:!*.c hello.c 0