On Mon, Dec 20 2021, Junio C Hamano wrote: > Derrick Stolee <stolee@xxxxxxxxx> writes: > >> What I _am_ saying is important is that if we are trying to write >> a file to a known location and its parent directory doesn't exist, >> then we should create it. Not doing so is a bug and should be >> fixed, no matter how rare such a thing is to occur. As you've >> shown, it is not required to have an info directory until we need >> one (e.g. for sparse-checkout or an excludes file). >> >> If you're not planning to add that to this series, then I'll add it >> to my list. I do think it would fit well into this one, though. > > Historically, "git init" relied on the templates to create necessary > directories, and the subcommands in turn learned to depend on the > presence of these directories. > > At the same time we allowed that the templates can be customized by > the end users. It was a bug, exactly for the reason you said above. > > Before we talk about creating 'info' directory directly in "git > init" or anything done in this topic, we should fix the existing > bug, and the right fix is to use safe-create-leading-directories. > > With that, it may become unnecessary to have this "create 'info' in > 'init'". I don't see why we'd consider that as a worthwhile direction to go in. The "git-init" documentation states: This command creates an empty Git repository - basically a `.git` directory with subdirectories for `objects`, `refs/heads`, `refs/tags`, and template files. I.e. we promise to create "objects", but not "objects/{info,pack}", even though we've done so since f49fb35d0d5 (git-init-db: create "pack" subdirectory under objects, 2005-06-27) and d57306c7945 (Create objects/info/ directory in init-db., 2005-08-20). Our test suite reveals our own assumptions, but it's also indicative of assumptions others have made. It's cheap to create .git/info unconditionally, and we create similar empty subdirectories, so why not do it for .git/info? Why would we needlessly break widely documented out-of-tree recipies like: some-user-excludes >.git/info/excludes Which yes, rely on something you can't strictly rely on, but is true enough most of the time that people do. So I don't see what finding and fixing every instance of assuming .git/info in the test suite buys us. After doing that we'd be back to square one of having to decide if exposing a mode that effectively did the same could be overly pedantic in that case, or cheaply cater to out-of-tree code that made the same assumption. That's the question this topic is mainly trying to address. It's also worthwhile to fix the in-tree dependency in sparse-checkout, but I don't see why we'd insist that one can't be done without the other.