Derrick Stolee <stolee@xxxxxxxxx> writes: >> But even with the shortcomings of expect_failure, it still is much >> better than claiming that we expect a bogus outcome. >> >> Improving the shortcomings of expect_failure would be a much better >> use of our time than advocating an abuse of expect_sucess, I would >> think. > > I agree that test_expect_failure has these drawbacks. I've recently > been using _expect_success to document "bad" behavior so we can verify > that behavior changes when that behavior is fixed. But it does have > the drawback of looking like we claim the result is by design. Yeah, I think I saw (and I think I used the same technique myself) people expect a bad output with test_expect_success with an in-code (not in-log) comment that explicitly says "This documents the current behaviour, which is wrong", and that is a very acceptable solution, I would think. > One possible way to correct this is to create a "test_expected_failure" > helper that could be placed on the step(s) of the &&-chain that are > expected to fail. The helper could set some variable to true if the > failure is hit, and false otherwise. It can also convert a failure > into a positive result. Then, test_expect_failure could look for that > variable's value (after verifying that the &&-chain returns success) > to show that all expected failures completed correctly. Yup, I would very much like the direction, and further imagine that the above approach can be extended to ... > This could have the side-effect of having a "fixed" test_expect_failure > show as a failed test, not a "TODO" message. ... avoid such downside. Perhaps call that magic "we know this step fails currently" test_known_breakage and declare that we deprecate the use of test_expect_failure in new tests. Such a test might look like this: test_expect_success 'commit error message should not duplicate' ' test_when_finished "chmod -R u+rwx ." && chmod u-rwx .git/objects/ && orig_head=$(git rev-parse HEAD) && test_must_fail git commit --allow-empty -m "read-only" 2>rawerr && grep "insufficient permission" rawerr >err && test_known_breakage test_line_count = 1 err && new_head=$(git rev-parse HEAD) && test "$orig_head" = "$new_head" ' which may use your trick to turn both failure and success to OK (to let the remainder of the test to continue) but signal the surrounding test_expect_success to say either "TODO know breakage" or "Fixed". Thanks.