Eric Sunshine wrote: > Google requires 2fa to be enabled in order to create app passwords, That doesn't make sense. It's like complaining that you need to lose a limb in order to use prostetics... App passwords are a suboptimal solution in case you cannot use 2fa for a certain application. If you cannot use 2fa for any application, then don't enable 2fa, and then you don't need an app password. Just use your regular password. > > And of course you don't need them for the second step authentication > > either, you can use any OTP client: > > > > https://github.com/paolostivanin/OTPClient > > Thanks, that's an interesting bit of information, though if a person > can't enable 2fa in the first place, then... (intentionally left > blank) All you need to enable 2fa is demonstrate that you can *use* 2fa... So you need an OTP client. Cheers. -- Felipe Contreras