On Wed, May 12 2021, Dave Huseby wrote: > On 12.05.2021 10:45, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: >>There hasn't been a release of Pine since late 2005, in Alpine the >>no-strip-whitespace-before-send switch is already the default. >> >>This documentation was initially added in 9740d289ee7 (Update >>SubmittingPatches to add MUA specific notes., 2005-08-26), at this >>point it's safe to say that it's not useful to anyone anymore, let's >>remove it. > > What is wrong with keeping it in there? My latest version of the > etiquette patch moves my Mutt MUA config notes to this section on MUAs. > It could eventually become a somewhat exhaustive reference of MUA > tweaks. Old tools may not be popular but they sometime have niche uses > and/or userbases. My recent switch to Mutt has been mixed at best and I > went back to take a look at mh/nmh to see if I liked it better and I may > give it a go for a while to kick the tires, likely making me the only > developer that uses nmh. > > Keeping these notes on old tools--at the bottom of documentation no > less--seems to have little to no "cruft cost" with the potential of > helping somebody someday, even if nostalgia is the only reason. I think there's an inherent value in keeping guides like these short and to the point, and only including those things relevant to most readers. So I do think that if we're including such a niche guide we're better off splitting it into another file and linking to it, same with the whole guide in SubmittingPatches now teaching people to manually craft a patch without using git-format-patch, another obscure edge case we give too much space / causes distraction. In this case though I think saying anything about pine crosses the line from niche to obscure archaeology. We're inlining a patch for abandoned software that has a replacement. If we're going to say anything about Pine in such a list I think it should be: Pine: abandoned and has known flowed text bugs, use its successor alpine or another MUA instead.